Arturia Memory V - Memorymoog Emulation out now

[machinesworking]

They added a 12dB option and a bass compensation to the filter; otherwise, it's a classic ladder filter

Again, the Memorymoog does not have the same filter as the Mini, the amp section alone distorts much harder, in a good way than the Mini Filter, MM uses a CEM chip for it, and it's different for sure.

I thought they both had the 24/db Ladder filter, except there are 6 of them in the Memorymoog. (?)
Also I thought the Mini used discrete components in the filter, and the same was true for the Memorymoog (no CEM).

Yeah I'm not an expert on the inner workings, but in a conversation with Urs he mentioned that the Memorymoog filters were far dirtier etc. Duck Duck Go comes back with this:

Memorymoog:
Uses a discrete implementation of the Moog ladder filter.
Each of its six voices has its own 24 dB/octave low-pass filter.
Minimoog:
Also features the classic Moog ladder filter but employs discrete Moog oscillators.
The filter design is simpler compared to the Memorymoog.

That's my impression too, the other stand out thing on the Memorymoog is the Voice Modulation section, it's where you're going to get FM type sounds etc.

[Gam456]

No one tested it against the Xils emu?

Isn’t that a Poly Moog?

Yes. There is no Xils Memory Moog. Only Cherry.

and this one

https://www.memorymoon.com/memorymoon.htm

[Igro]

How is a CPU load on this one?

[Vortifex]

How is a CPU load on this one?

Playing max polyphony pads I was hitting 20% in FL Studio on a Ryzen 7 9700X. A max unison bass was 10%. Normal leads/keys between 5/10%. That's at 44k sample rate with a buffer of 256.

[zerocrossing]

The Cherry Audio version makes me not like how the Memorymoog sounds so I am not enthused about this one, but I wonder if that's just Cherry Audio...

The Polivoks emulation Atomica is fantastic though, changed my opinion on Cherry.

I've heard pretty detailed comparisons between hardware and software of Atomika/Polivoks and while it has the flavor, there are also differences when it gets pushed. Cherry does not have the best attention to detail, especially when it comes to complex stuff like filter resonance or audio rate modulation.

I agree. I didn't hear an a-b comparison with the hardware, but just playing around with it and knowing what that kind of aggressive, driven, analog filter sounds like, I could hear it falls short by a lot. Not bad for general analog type tones, but that's not what I want a Polivoks for.

I think it's a matter of the per-voice distortion at that gain level being very CPU hungry, so shortcuts are made. Some developers just let the aliasing fly, letting a harsh sound happen, others filter, giving it a softer, dull tone. It's really the main reason I keep hardware polys around, even though they are expensive and I don't love the IRL workflow. Nothing in software approaches my Melbourne Instruments Nina, the crunch of the Polyvera, or the blistering filter drive of my Analog Four. If you're a fan of those types of tones, a plugin will usually fall short, though there are some good monophonic plugins who can let loose and do the proper oversampling to get it right, like the Softube Modular plugin.

I am eager to try this one, though, but I'll probably wait until it becomes part of the next V Collection. What I'm really hoping for is that they offer a new Matrix 12 V version as well.

[Echoes in the Attic]

The Cherry Audio version makes me not like how the Memorymoog sounds so I am not enthused about this one, but I wonder if that's just Cherry Audio...

The Polivoks emulation Atomica is fantastic though, changed my opinion on Cherry.

I've heard pretty detailed comparisons between hardware and software of Atomika/Polivoks and while it has the flavor, there are also differences when it gets pushed. Cherry does not have the best attention to detail, especially when it comes to complex stuff like filter resonance or audio rate modulation.

I agree. I didn't hear an a-b comparison with the hardware, but just playing around with it and knowing what that kind of aggressive, driven, analog filter sounds like, I could hear it falls short by a lot. Not bad for general analog type tones, but that's not what I want a Polivoks for.

I think it's a matter of the per-voice distortion at that gain level being very CPU hungry, so shortcuts are made. Some developers just let the aliasing fly, letting a harsh sound happen, others filter, giving it a softer, dull tone. It's really the main reason I keep hardware polys around, even though they are expensive and I don't love the IRL workflow. Nothing in software approaches my Melbourne Instruments Nina, the crunch of the Polyvera, or the blistering filter drive of my Analog Four. If you're a fan of those types of tones, a plugin will usually fall short, though there are some good monophonic plugins who can let loose and do the proper oversampling to get it right, like the Softube Modular plugin.

I am eager to try this one, though, but I'll probably wait until it becomes part of the next V Collection. What I'm really hoping for is that they offer a new Matrix 12 V version as well.

Updated Matrix-12 would be cool, but the existing one is quite nice sounding already. And honestly I'm just not seeing their newer ones getting any closer to analog sound then the existing Matrix-12 V. Arturia still ha absolutely no punch, I don't know if it's a problem with their envelopes but when it comes to anything with an attack, especially bass, there's just no punch. Pads, keys, softer sounds are great with Arturia. But they all sound like they are run through a compressor that's killing the attacks. The CS-80 has nice pads and legato style leads, as do most of their synths. The basses and plucky things are embarrassing.

I've always liked their Minimoog by the way, ever since 20 years ago when I got the original, for what it is, smooth and sizzly. In their latest version they removed the sync, but the Memorymoog has sync so that's a nice thing that came back here. Diva has sync between both oscs as well though so pretty muhc gets you to Memorymog territory anyways.

[tlvid]

The envelope times are inaccurate so I'll be giving this one a miss.

[Seafire Mk2]

How inaccurate?

[Sumo999]

right away reading the review they may have screwed up the filter. It is NOT the same as the Minimoog at all, a much more brutal sounding beast. Even without hearing it yet...

for real?

[TheMaestro]

How inaccurate?

About 6-7.

[PAK]

Arturia did include the original hardware Factory patches, so it’s not too difficult to do your own comparisons, and there’s already some videos directly comparing with the hardware. EG..


Hardware will vary somewhat. For example, in the above video, the hardware voices are less in tune, and the envelope release time is shorter on some voices vs the emulations settings. Differences like this are often settings based Vs quality of emulation. It also starts with faster modulation - where (like high resonance) you can normally expect to hear more differences.

FWIW Many of the “more basic” sounds appear to hold up quite well. That said, “09 Harp” (4min 20 in) is way off on the lower octaves between his hardware and Memory V, which is surprising given it's quite a simple sound. (IIRC That’s the source for the main lead in Small Town Boy by Bronski Beat - as well as Memorymoog for the pads, of course!)

[Cuauhtli]

Nevermind.

[Benjamin923]

This synth sounds great honestly, in my opinion. I just am having a hard time understanding what is compelling about this i.e. it sounds good in a way similar to other Moog emulations imo.

[felis]

This synth sounds great honestly, in my opinion. I just am having a hard time understanding what is compelling about this i.e. it sounds good in a way similar to other Moog emulations imo.

There are a lot of good/great Moog emulations.
What decided it immediately for me with this one is the advanced modulation section.

[Seafire Mk2]

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FWIW Many of the “more basic” sounds appear to hold up quite well. That said, “09 Harp” (4min 20 in) is way off on the lower octaves between his hardware and Memory V, which is surprising given it's quite a simple sound. (IIRC That’s the source for the main lead in Small Town Boy by Bronski Beat - as well as Memorymoog for the pads, of course!)

DX7 Harp preset was used for the main melody