So how's Bitwig 6 going?

[JsinOwl]

Given the relatively modest level of griping, I'd say a significant majority of users are quite content.

[BobDog]

Or just not using BW anymore.

[questionaire]

Another big reason for leaving Bitwig i forgot to name is the lack of an official forum and the lack of being heard therefore by Bitwig forum moderators.

Most of the major daw’s are helpfull with their moderators. And i know Kemper Amps do have a great forum with active moderators. At least i know ableton and steinberg are helping and supporting.

Complaints are not being heard at Bitwig on this “official” forum or at least they pretent that no one is around here from Bitwig.

And no manual.

[BobDog]

I have been quite impressed with the Ableton official discord stuff, there is a permanent member of staff there dealing with things and also other Ableton employees piping up.

Sections for their different products, feature requests for their different products, sections for the more esoteric stuff. All pretty good. They also have a proper responsive beta testing system as well, and of course their documentation is kept up to date.

They have obviously taken a decision and put a bit of effort into keeping their users involved, and giving them some idea that they may have some impact going forward.

Bitwig (as in the company) has been silent for years, it's not a great look.

I'm pretty sure they read what is posted on the internet, it wouldn't be hard to keep up here as the first page of posts covers a month!

[pdxindy]

I have been quite impressed with the Ableton official discord stuff, there is a permanent member of staff there dealing with things and also other Ableton employees piping up.

Sections for their different products, feature requests for their different products, sections for the more esoteric stuff. All pretty good. They also have a proper responsive beta testing system as well, and of course their documentation is kept up to date.

They have obviously taken a decision and put a bit of effort into keeping their users involved, and giving them some idea that they may have some impact going forward.

Bitwig (as in the company) has been silent for years, it's not a great look.

I'm pretty sure they read what is posted on the internet, it wouldn't be hard to keep up here as the first page of posts covers a month!

I'm fine with Bitwig's silence. When I send in bug reports, I get a reply. They either ask for more info, or confirm it's a bug and forward it to the devs.

All the bugs I've reported in the V6 beta period and since release have all been fixed.

The Bitwig Discord works well as a place for users to troubleshoot together. I'm good to go.

As for this forum, part of me thinks it would be better to just shut it down. It tends to be an unmoderated mess and frequently the noise exceeds the signal. But it also is useful for people sometimes. It would probably be a benefit for Bitwig to assign someone to moderate this forum. Doesn't need a company rep posting here, just moderation.

[JsinOwl]

Or just not using BW anymore.

If you were around for the spectral suite fiasco you'd know that this forum can get ablaze with hate when there's something really worth griping about. So no, I would disagree with your assessment that relative calm is evidence of the community's discontent.

[SLiC]

Mad isn't it!

They've had about eight months to do it from the first beta. Absolutely baffling.

I’m simply not updating until there is a manual, anyway, Live has scripts now…keeping me distracted!

[BobDog]

Or just not using BW anymore.

If you were around for the spectral suite fiasco you'd know that this forum can get ablaze with hate when there's something really worth griping about. So no, I would disagree with your assessment that relative calm is evidence of the community's discontent.

Well I was and what I am saying is that now I see a lot less footfall here, maybe it's just this forum and the same amount of people are still using Bitwig, I hope so but worry that they are loosing users that's all.

[BobDog]

I have been quite impressed with the Ableton official discord stuff, there is a permanent member of staff there dealing with things and also other Ableton employees piping up.

Sections for their different products, feature requests for their different products, sections for the more esoteric stuff. All pretty good. They also have a proper responsive beta testing system as well, and of course their documentation is kept up to date.

They have obviously taken a decision and put a bit of effort into keeping their users involved, and giving them some idea that they may have some impact going forward.

Bitwig (as in the company) has been silent for years, it's not a great look.

I'm pretty sure they read what is posted on the internet, it wouldn't be hard to keep up here as the first page of posts covers a month!

I'm fine with Bitwig's silence. When I send in bug reports, I get a reply. They either ask for more info, or confirm it's a bug and forward it to the devs.

All the bugs I've reported in the V6 beta period and since release have all been fixed.

The Bitwig Discord works well as a place for users to troubleshoot together. I'm good to go.

As for this forum, part of me thinks it would be better to just shut it down. It tends to be an unmoderated mess and frequently the noise exceeds the signal. But it also is useful for people sometimes. It would probably be a benefit for Bitwig to assign someone to moderate this forum. Doesn't need a company rep posting here, just moderation.

I should check out the BW discord then...

[Teezdalien]

It's not like Ableton are fixing core problems with it's old codebase.. hmm PDC cough cough...
Just introducing another whole new can of worms regarding stability with user scripting, as if M4L wasn't already enough.
No thanks.