Mark Mothersbaugh on Classic Hardware vs Software Emulations

[IvyBirds]

Awesome, you haven't even linked a single track to your own profile, so why are you acting like some misunderstood musical genius hiding in the shadows?
Besides, newsflash: KVR isn't your personal SoundCloud or some amateur talent show where people go to get patted on the back for their mediocre bedroom beats. It’s a forum for discussing music production tools—plugins, virtual instruments, and software. Nobody is lurking here desperate to judge your "personal music" because nobody cares.

Lol it's still going.

I'm sure you can do better than that. Did you just do a 180 on your position that this is a musicians' forum, now you're taking the side of the people who were arguing against you? Also you don't have to look far to find my own music on here, actually, but I guess that'd require you to be engaging with this forum in good faith.

Suggesting that people should link their tracks—or worse, that they are "afraid" to—completely fundamentally misunderstands where you are. It’s like walking into a Home Depot, screaming that everyone is too chicken to show off their finished gazebos, and wondering why the guys buying drywall are just staring at you.
Nobody is looking for your SoundCloud link. Nobody is judging your artistic soul. They are trying to figure out why their DAW keeps crashing on launch, and if the newest plugin sound 0.076% warmer than the other one, or if the latest plugin that emulates some vintage synth sounds exactly like the hardware they have never owned based off of YouTube videos

Imagine looking at this circus and thinking, "Yes, all of these people need to link their personal music." and everyone will spend thousands of hours listening to it so they can make judgements on why their DAW crashes or how the latest update broke their plugin

Expecting users to post their tracks on a plugin and music production forum is like walking into a tire factory and demanding the engineers show you video footage of their morning commute. We aren't sensitive singer-songwriters sitting around a campfire; we’re a bunch of nerds arguing about VSTs.

[dwringer]

Ah, okay then.

Bones (and Arturia, indirectly) really outdid themselves with this thread, lol

[Vortifex]

Well, I can see why some people are afraid to link their personal music to their KVR forum identity

I think far too fondly of you guys to inflict my music on you.

[zerocrossing]

Imagine being in a dreary covers band that plays at weddings and thinking you are a high art musician

Should we steer this train wreck of a thread to the difference between art and craft? That's always good for me finding at least a handful of people to add to the ol' foe list.

[zerocrossing]

I totally use similar logic to justify purchasing things for my music, though I’m not a big drinker. Instead, I’ll think, “that’s what I’d spend on a nice sushi dinner, or movies.” Of course, I eat the nice dinners and see the movies as well. I don’t spend any money on stuff a lot of dudes my age do, though. I’ve got a friend who spends a lot of money on sports and sports memorabilia. They go to Vegas a few times a year and drop a lot on gambling. They’re doctors who work a lot, so they’re not broke, but I’m sure even with all my expensive gear and software, it’s a fraction of what they spend on what really amounts to as entertainment, which is how I view my spending as well, even though I was making a living off it for years.

With me it's mostly not wanting to A - go broke, and B - get too weird about spending money that I don't enjoy myself. I'm well underpaid in one of the most expensive cities in the USA, and I manage to get by. Too many people I know are 20-50K in debt to credit cards etc.

The main thing is will I use it or is it just appealing because it's cool? I have multiple string and orchestral libraries, and then I reach for UVI String Machines 2 because I prefer the sound. So I'm cut off from orchestral libraries until I start using them in my music. Opus is great, if I need a realistic sounding string run for something I have that covered etc.

All that said I just bought Obliviion Drums. I realize I can get good distorted drums with resampling etc, and I will still do that, but Heavyocity spent weeks sampling etc. so worth it.

I definitely make sure that I have a use for anything that I buy, and that includes $3,000 hardware synths and $29 plugins, though I make different calculations based on price and space. I won't buy a synth with a keyboard, because they're just plain and simply not worth the space. I break that rule once, for a PolyBrute, but other than that, no. As for software, I'm a lot more discerning about what I'll buy than I used to be. I used to think, "oh, I'll have a few hours of fun on a weekend with this, so that's worth $X." But it started hitting a level where I just had too much clutter in my plugin folder. Plugins where I don't even remember what they do. Plugin suites that go on crazy sales are very guilty of packing my folder with a lot of stuff I never or rarely use, just because I wanted a handful of the plugins and the sale price made sense. So now, even when I'm curious about Memory V, I hold off. I just don't need it, unless it could eliminate a hardware synth, but I don't believe it could.

[IvyBirds]

​I’ve never once called myself a 'high art musician,' nor do I think I am.

Glad that's cleared up. Now we know we can ignore your constant drivel.

And yet, here you are. Reading my posts, quoting my words, and writing responses just to tell me how much you're 'ignoring' me. I’m living rent-free in your head, and honestly, I love how invested you are in my every word

[noiseresearch]

Do not why but this is the most entertaining thread here on KVR in a while...

[grandmasterbird]

Sauna anyone?

[VOODOO U]

Do not why but this is the most entertaining thread here on KVR in a while...

Yeah Portishead songs and vids always bring exciting and lively entertainment.

[Bunny_boy]

Sauna anyone?

Is it analog or digital?

[Seafire Mk2]

​I’ve never once called myself a 'high art musician,' nor do I think I am.

Glad that's cleared up. Now we know we can ignore your constant drivel.

And yet, here you are. Reading my posts, quoting my words, and writing responses just to tell me how much you're 'ignoring' me. I’m living rent-free in your head, and honestly, I love how invested you are in my every word

Glad you're so easily amused. Little things...

[legendCNCD]

Sauna anyone?

Is it analog or digital?

It is hybrid. And you will be naked in there, no clothes, no bathing suits or such are allowed

[IvyBirds]

​I’ve never once called myself a 'high art musician,' nor do I think I am.

Glad that's cleared up. Now we know we can ignore your constant drivel.

And yet, here you are. Reading my posts, quoting my words, and writing responses just to tell me how much you're 'ignoring' me. I’m living rent-free in your head, and honestly, I love how invested you are in my every word

Glad you're so easily amused. Little things...

And yet, you’re still fetching the stick every time I throw it. Good boy! Here you are, still replying. I didn't realize my 'drivel' was your entire personality now, but I appreciate the dedication. Don't forget to hit refresh so you can see what I type next

It is genuinely heartwarming how devoted you are to my content. You claimed you were going to ignore me, yet you’re still here, front row and center, notifications clearly turned on. Thanks for the unconditional support, always nice to have groupies so devoted to little old me

[grandmasterbird]

Indeed. The KVR sauna. Where people go to work out their differences. Although the hostilities here point to the fact that the BONY-birds unification didn't go well. Perhaps a referee needs to be placed in the sauna to enforce the ground rules.

[BBFG#]

It's not a sauna, it's two men in a peep show booth tugging on each other while not agreeing on which video they should watch. All while insisting they're totally straight.