Resurrect one plugin. What would you pick?

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sQeetz wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 8:08 am
Nug Wrangler wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 4:28 am This:

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wow that's ugly. Babya Logic vibes going on somehow... But if it sounds good? :lol:
Ugly indeed :lol: but it does sound good imo
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Would like to see Z3TA+ 2 resurrected...

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I have it installed on Windows 11 via Cakewalk Command Center.

https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Products/Z3TA
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I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.

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osiris wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:18 pm I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.
You could ask Rene.
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whassup wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 6:44 pm
osiris wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:18 pm I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.
You could ask Rene.
I haven't heard from Rene in 15 years. Are you saying that you have been able to keep in touch?
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audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:29 pm
whassup wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 6:44 pm
osiris wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:18 pm I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.
You could ask Rene.
I haven't heard from Rene in 15 years. Are you saying that you have been able to keep in touch?
He's on Facebook. I've talked to him frequently over the years.

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audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:29 pm
whassup wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 6:44 pm
osiris wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:18 pm I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.
You could ask Rene.
I haven't heard from Rene in 15 years. Are you saying that you have been able to keep in touch?
Unfortunately not. I reached out via Facebook but he didn't respond.
ABX is enemy to GAS

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TotcProductions wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:37 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:29 pm
whassup wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 6:44 pm
osiris wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:18 pm I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.
You could ask Rene.
I haven't heard from Rene in 15 years. Are you saying that you have been able to keep in touch?
He's on Facebook. I've talked to him frequently over the years.
I never knew that!!! I've always wondered what happened to him!! Is he on a particular forum, or did you just find him under his name?
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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whassup wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:02 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:29 pm
whassup wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 6:44 pm
osiris wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:18 pm I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.
You could ask Rene.
I haven't heard from Rene in 15 years. Are you saying that you have been able to keep in touch?
Unfortunately not. I reached out via Facebook but he didn't respond.
Hmmm.... Bummer.... Chances are that's what I would get if I wrote. But I have to admit that I've wondered many times over the years how he's doing.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
:roll:

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audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:14 pm Hmmm.... Bummer.... Chances are that's what I would get if I wrote. But I have to admit that I've wondered many times over the years how he's doing.
Yeah, me too. We were rather close 20 something years ago.
Then some life happened and here we are.
No hard feelings at all. Just sad.
ABX is enemy to GAS

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rene probably doesn't even own the code anymore. cakewalk bought rgc audio years ago, so the IP is owned by bandlab now. even if he wanted to open source it, it's stuck in corporate limbo. a surge-style open source reboot of z3ta would be the dream though.
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audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:13 pm
TotcProductions wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:37 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:29 pm
whassup wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 6:44 pm
osiris wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:18 pm I wish they would make z3ta open source. I HATED the reverb on it. After hearing what was done with Surge, this would be a powerhouse.
You could ask Rene.
I haven't heard from Rene in 15 years. Are you saying that you have been able to keep in touch?
He's on Facebook. I've talked to him frequently over the years.
I never knew that!!! I've always wondered what happened to him!! Is he on a particular forum, or did you just find him under his name?
We've been in communication going back well over 20 years. Collaborated closely with him before and during his time at Cakewalk when I ran Pro-Sounds. Both of us exited the industry, but stayed in touch over the years to talk shop and life in general.

With Cakewalk having control of everything when he moved on, I'm not sure what kind of say he would even have over the code for Zeta+, Rapture, Dimension Pro, etc. If I remember correctly, Roland came in at some point and shelved everything. Can't speak to details, as I was under an NDA, but I was working on a pretty cool Rene project that I believe was cut due to Roland coming in an shaking things up (I had just finished all the work, too!). All the people I was working closely with at Cakewalk were canned or left after that and my work for them ended.

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Thank you for this information! I appreciate it. At least he is doing ok. 🙂
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
:roll:

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