Are you happy being on LINUX for music production?

[TechHaus]

No games being played, and actually i documented it in Notion because it is something that came up multiple time and I was sick of googling it. That is how I am sure I am not mistaken.

Sorry my experience doesn't fit your narrative.

Best to you.

[FrettedSynth]

Over two years using MX Linux = Very happy

[audiojunkie]

No games being played, and actually i documented it in Notion because it is something that came up multiple time and I was sick of googling it. That is how I am sure I am not mistaken.

Sorry my experience doesn't fit your narrative.

Best to you.

There are many of us that have great experiences, flawless for me. You just have to ignore the troll, since Ben doesn't do anything about him.

[Tiles]

No games being played, and actually i documented it in Notion because it is something that came up multiple time and I was sick of googling it. That is how I am sure I am not mistaken.

Sorry my experience doesn't fit your narrative.

Best to you.

You mean the document with the title propaganda lies for beginners? And now it is even multiple times already?

Just don't get caught, then you won't need to whine about it here and even attack me for pointing at it.

[TechHaus]

No games being played, and actually i documented it in Notion because it is something that came up multiple time and I was sick of googling it. That is how I am sure I am not mistaken.

Sorry my experience doesn't fit your narrative.

Best to you.

You mean the document with the title propaganda lies for beginners? And now it is even multiple times already?

Just don't get caught, then you won't need to whine about it here and even attack me for pointing at it.

Tiles, what operating system is this thread about?

And how does one install that particular OS - on a usb thumb drive, perhaps?

And when folks are switching to this OS, do they often hop around distros and try different setups and create multiple usb keys?

Do I need to go on? because this is checkmate.

I am Matt Damon and you are Teddy KGB, in this case.

[Tiles]

Dream harder

Your claim was that at Windows you need gpedit to format an usb stick. I disproved you by pointing at the format item in the right click menu. And then you started attacking me.

It is always the same, the moment when the facts comes in the way you folks are getting offending and personal.

[TechHaus]

Dream harder

Your claim was that at Windows you need gpedit to format an usb stick. I disproved you by pointing at the format item in the right click menu. And then you started attacking me.

It is always the same, the moment when the facts comes in the way you folks are getting offending and personal.

I said diskpart (i have no idea what gpedit is) and then i just told you the exact scenario where I needed it in the last post!

Make a Linux installer - it doesn't show up in the menu or file explorer! (I don't even know what "the menu" is referring to)

I had to google how to format the usb stick! Everything I said, including...umm...the "personal attacks?" (where?) are true.

You told me all I had to do was right click, and I immediately told you it was not a recognized format. That should have been the end of it. Instead you got sonned, son.

[Tiles]

Okay, diskpart. Sorry, mixed the term. And? Your claim is still wrong and disproven as a propaganda lie.

And now you introduce a new strawman even? Now we talk about an installer?

While we're correcting things, Linux software is usually distributed as packages, AppImages, Flatpaks or Snaps. The term "installer" is more commonly associated with Windows.

EDIT: But that you mention Linux Installer brings me finally on the right track. Now i k now what was going on.

When a USB stick has been written with a Linux image, and contains even installer scripts, Windows sometimes refuses to format it normally, and Diskpart is indeed a common way to fix that.

This is a special case though, and not common. And it works the other way around too. You can also under Linux end in the situation that an USB stick written by Windows is not longer easily to format and you need to use wipefs or similar methods.

You're welcome.

I had to google how to format the usb stick! Everything I said, including...umm...the "personal attacks?" (where?) are true.

I’m not disputing that you used Diskpart or had to look it up. It’s just not something most people need for a simple USB stick issue. Your claim that you need diskpart to format an usb stick at Windows is plain wrong. The normal way is the same as at Linux. That's the facts.

And must i really point you to the personal attacks here, mister i have the meme and I am Matt Damon and you are Teddy KGB ?

Grow up, and start to discuss in an adult manner.

[TechHaus]

No, your claim that folks don't need to google to use Windows is the propaganda lie, because you just admitted that you are not disputing that I did.

Regardless if you want to pick apart my wording, you now understand exactly why I had to, and your premise is debunked, just like I said it was.

And there is no propaganda from me - I have laid it all out here. If there was any confusion or ambiguity, it is clear now!

And I agreed with you right away about LLM's, I wasn't even attacking you. Who knows what Gemini would tell me at the top of a google search if I had a Windows problem today - luckily back then I found a solid website with the answer, and then after multiple times running into having a usb drive not being recognized by Window, I documented the process in Notion, saving me a Google search.

Got it? Good.

[Tiles]

No, your claim that folks don't need to google to use Windows is the propaganda lie, because you just admitted that you are not disputing that I did.

Nope, that's the truth, provable and repeatable. You just don't like it. The Windows UI is made in a way that you can find everything by yourself in case you search long enough. No Google needed at all. You will even find Diskpart that way.

Now do the same with the bash. It's a systemic problem, you know.

You are mixing up a general statement with an edge case. Nobody claimed that Windows never requires troubleshooting or looking things up. The point and the argument was about normal and daily usage, not special repair scenarios. The same applies to Linux as well. Just that the normal usage also requires googling, or using an LLM.

And this was even the advice from @ThomasHelzle: use an LLM to make your life with Linux easier. And this advice from somebody who actively uses Linux and is not discredited as a "linux hater" does not come out of the blue.

What I can highly recommend: Find a good local LLM and let it help you with Linux issues.

I wasn't even attacking you.

Now how would you consider your current wording here?

I repeat, grow up and start to think.

[TechHaus]

Brother, creating linux usb sticks is a normal scenario.

In fact, go use Google right now to see how many people have discussed this exact scenario.

And the Windows ui is made for finding candycrush saga easily, that was in my start menu, unsolicited.

[Tiles]

And creating a Windows stick is also a normal scenario, simply use Format from the right click menu.

In fact, go use Google right now to see how many people have discussed this exact scenario.

While at it, don't forget to google for Linux USB problem for this exact scenario.

And the Windows ui is made for finding candycrush saga easily, that was in my start menu, unsolicited.

That you don't like Windows is your problem. Your personal aversion has nothing to do with the issue.

[Tiles]

Now that I’ve figured out what the actual problem is, I withdraw the accusation of a propaganda lie. I no longer wish to let that stand. It’s simply an edge case I hadn’t considered.

Does this at least help you understand the problem? Then our dispute would have at least one positive end.

EDIT: But that you mention Linux Installer brings me finally on the right track. Now i k now what was going on.

When a USB stick has been written with a Linux image, and contains even installer scripts, Windows sometimes refuses to format it normally, and Diskpart is indeed a common way to fix that.

This is a special case though, and not common. And it works the other way around too. You can also under Linux end in the situation that an USB stick written by Windows is not longer easily to format and you need to use wipefs or similar methods.

[TechHaus]

False, though - I can read and write ntfs, exfat, fatwhatever easily in Linux (and dozens of more formats). New Mac OS is super faulty reading some of these, though, lately.

But, we are letting this go.

I do want to post a gif of Teddy KGB saying "Pay that man his money" but that would be childish.

Anyway, let's let it die here. I accept your withdrawal.

It is not an edge case, I assure you. (Some) folks are leaving Windows for Linux- that's what these threads on here are about. And they will be distrohopping and writing isos and will need to use diskpart (or another 3rd party utility).

[Tiles]

I’m not withdrawing the argument, I’m clarifying it. The point was about normal usage versus recovery scenarios, not about whether such tools exist.

And just to be precise: writing Linux ISOs is not a Diskpart use case. On Windows that would typically be Rufus or similar tools, on Linux dd or tools like Balena Etcher or Ventoy. Diskpart is mainly for resetting partition tables when a device is in a broken state.

This is a recovery scenario, not part of normal day to day usage.

Let’s leave it here.