With All These Emulations Coming Out...

[Seafire Mk2]

Well, it's a digital synth.

I was joking anyway.

[Lbdunequest]

I think i got desensitized because of all the great vsts and how they sound nowadays.

Andromeda A6 just doesnt that sound impressive or mind blowing anymore as it used to.

In my ears Zebra 3 sounds just as good or even better. Same with something like The Legend HZ, Gforce Prophet 5, Serum 2, Massive X ect.

[Lbdunequest]

It's an incredible machine.

Matt Johnson gives a great showcase of it here:

OK so I watched that video and it left me asking myself what the big deal is. None of what he played sounded like it couldn't be done elsewhere. That isn't to say that its not capable of a lot but that certainly wouldn't be a demo that would push me over the edge to buy one.

Okay, so what list of synths would you say sound better than this?

Put a good keyboardist, play some well made patches and anything in the last 5 to 8 years released vsts can sound just as good or better.

Andromeda sounds awesome but you dont have the real thing, you are just listening to someone playing well patches. If you put the same guy to play Zebra 3 you will be amazed too, im sure.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

[rod_zero]

I don't think we will be getting emulations of modern analog synths for various reasons but mostly because most people who care about very detailed emulations only care about vintage stuff yada yada yada. So the market would be small.

And they are not iconic in the sense of "the synth has been used across x and y recordar by famous artists X".

[JamminFool]

wags, didn't you recently assert that no one will be able to tell which synth is used once it is buried in the mix? since you also assert you have almost every other synth, i'm not sure why that doesn't apply here.

not trying to be difficult, but why own so many synths, if having a few select ones that get close enough will do the job once they are mixed in your song?

[wagtunes]

wags, didn't you recently assert that no one will be able to tell which synth is used once it is buried in the mix? since you also assert you have almost every other synth, i'm not sure why that doesn't apply here.

not trying to be difficult, but why own so many synths, if having a few select ones that get close enough will do the job once they are mixed in your song?

Here's what I think most people don't understand when they look at this statement I have made.

"You can't tell what the synth is when buried in the mix"

No, you can't. But you CAN tell that X synth sounds DIFFERENT from Y synth. THAT is why I have different synths.

Certainly you're not going to tell me that a Korg Wavestation sounds like an Oberheim OB X. And a Waldorf PPG 3 sounds different from both of them.

Does that explain better why I have different synths?

[JamminFool]

I'm not telling you anything.

I'm just asking why you apparently own nearly every synth. Surely a smaller subset will cover the basic sounds, according to your own assertions elsewhere?

[Grizzellda]

What is this thread even about?

Nowadayz, it is all an emulation. We are all content!!! See Negativeland's song...we exist only as empty, meaningless nobodies, only to be infinitely REMIXED & REGURGITATED forever, and ever...amen.

And those that do REMIX us, will be assholes we have not ever even met!!!

So, welcome to Urantia basically!!!

[Vortifex]

I think i got desensitized because of all the great vsts and how they sound nowadays.

Andromeda A6 just doesnt that sound impressive or mind blowing anymore as it used to.

In my ears Zebra 3 sounds just as good or even better. Same with something like The Legend HZ, Gforce Prophet 5, Serum 2, Massive X ect.

Yeah. You reach a point where it's difficult to be genuinely impressed any more, and realise that the tools you already have are more than good enough.

[exmatproton]

I think i got desensitized because of all the great vsts and how they sound nowadays.

Andromeda A6 just doesnt that sound impressive or mind blowing anymore as it used to.

In my ears Zebra 3 sounds just as good or even better. Same with something like The Legend HZ, Gforce Prophet 5, Serum 2, Massive X ect.

Yeah. You reach a point where it's difficult to be genuinely impressed any more, and realise that the tools you already have are more than good enough.

Amen

[wagtunes]

I'm not telling you anything.

I'm just asking why you apparently own nearly every synth. Surely a smaller subset will cover the basic sounds, according to your own assertions elsewhere?

And I gave you my answer. While you can't tell specifically what synth it is you're hearing in the mix, synths do sound different from each other, That's why I own these.

Korg Wavestation
Korg Triton
Synapse Audio Obsession
XILS Polymoog
PPG Phonom
Arturia Buchla V

And so many more. Because they all give me something different.

[JamminFool]

I'm not telling you anything.

I'm just asking why you apparently own nearly every synth. Surely a smaller subset will cover the basic sounds, according to your own assertions elsewhere?

And I gave you my answer. While you can't tell specifically what synth it is you're hearing in the mix, synths do sound different from each other, That's why I own these.

Korg Wavestation
Korg Triton
Synapse Audio Obsession
XILS Polymoog
PPG Phonom
Arturia Buchla V

And so many more. Because they all give me something different.

i think you entirely miss my point, but it's ok. be happy.

[IvyBirds]

But special and inspiring may not be the same thing to everyone.
Like the famous jmj laser harp.. cherished and special to many, totally wtf to me.
rsp

Okay, then if not "special" at least unique if nothing else sounds like it. To me, unique is inspiring. So if there is something out there that sounds like an A6, I want it. So far, nobody has been able to point me to a synth that sounds like an A6, inspiring or not.

A friend and band mate had one for several years 15 years ago or so. He got bored with it and tried to sell it to me. I had it at my house for a few months. I got to know it pretty well, how it works and how it sounded

The point that gets missed with the A6 is that it's from the era when Yamaha came out with the Motif, Roland had the original Fantom, and and Korg had the Triton

This is a workstation synth designed to deliver a bunch of analog synth sounds. Just like those other Synths were designed to deliver a bunch of different sounds in one box

You bring it on stage or in the studio and you can use it to make any analog synth sound you would need on one device. It wouldn't sound like an actual Minimoog, or OBXa, or Prophet 5, or whatever but could get you close enough in the ball park to work for what you needed it to. That's why people say it lacks character, because it does. It's a chameleon a jack of all trades

That was a pretty cool idea in the year 2000, but in 2026? Not so much. I can show up in 2026 at the gig or the studio with a laptop full of plugins that allow me to emulate pretty much any analog synth I want with way more accuracy than I could ever do with an A6

Beyond that with tools like Zebra, DIVA, Falcon, HALion7, Omnisphere 3, etc I can do pretty much anything from a sound design perspective if my goal is to have classic analog waveforms run through resonating filters with a deep Modulation matrix, and those will give more filter options than what the A6 had

Now if you are trying to nail the exact sound of the A6 for some reason that might be a different story, but not sure why anyone would want that. Does it sound bad? No it doesn't but it's just not very special either

[whassup]

Put a good keyboardist, play some well made patches and anything in the last 5 to 8 years released vsts can sound just as good or better.

Andromeda sounds awesome but you dont have the real thing, you are just listening to someone playing well patches. If you put the same guy to play Zebra 3 you will be amazed too, im sure.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

So true!

[whassup]

Yeah. You reach a point where it's difficult to be genuinely impressed any more, and realise that the tools you already have are more than good enough.

Too much truth for KVR...