I know you hate it - They hate us too

[Innermost]

Yep. I am an asshole. They are saint. That's ok. We don't have all the same chance in life. They are lucky to be who they are. We are doomed. Surrounded by corporate morality. I am ok with that. I love inhuman saints. Thanks to their superiority we can let our inferiority shine.

[zerocrossing]

AI data centers are already a huge drain on electrical grids and water, as well as taking up tons of land. There will be a point where many people will die due to an emergency created by these data centers.

I'm not going to participate in the killing just because I can't create my own drum loops. My music that five people listen to isn't more important than anyone's life.

Local power company wants to raise rates 57% in January for a mo-fo data center.

I wonder when the violent revolt will begin.

[sl23]

Soon, very soon!

[Innermost]

Perhaps when we will stop to hallucinate on AI possibilities as much as AI does with our reality.

[Innermost]

I wonder when the violent revolt will begin.

What's stopping you from starting it right now?

[Innermost]

Soon, very soon!

When? You seem to know things speaking like that.

[lotus2035]

Stop all this hypocritical AI datacenter save-the-world nonsense. All of you have purchased music hardware and phones produced in China, which is one of the world's three worst polluters.

There have always been doomsday preachers, and they have all failed since mankind is still here.

I'm presume by 'polluters' you mean just on a local level and not as part of some wider problem known as climate change? Because that would mean you were doing some doomsday preaching of your own.

People's concern with data centers is mainly related to them using up entire region's water supplies, electricity and hoarding all the RAM, GPUs and hard-drives for themselves. And for what? Larry Fink is already labeling the opposition to data centers as some kind of terrorism. This is not a good sign and nothing like a pollution problem. This all comes across more like a group setting themselves up like a dictatorship.

And for what it's worth, I don't think data centers are for training AI for harmless tasks. It's an internet public data analysis and surveillance grid. The beginnings of a new high-tech Stasi on steroids.

[foosnark]

Strange. Being a twat is now a marketing strategy?

It seems to work in politics...

[Innermost]

@lotus2035
So you say they are preaching a doomsday discourse while on the same time you seem in the end preaching a kind of complotism point of view where AI training would serve a public analysis data and surveillance grid?

[Innermost]

Strange. Being a twat is now a marketing strategy?

It seems to work in politics...

Yep. And you are an inhabitant of one of the country where it seems to work very well.
How do you feel about that?

[billinder33]

I don't understand the value of using Gen-AI to generate samples in a world where something like Splice exists. In the time it takes to type a prompt, wait for the gen, review, refine, and wait again, you could have filtered and scanned through 50 to 100 premade samples/loops, many of which would likely do the job.

I guess if someone really needs 'free', or is chasing something so specific that AI prompting is more efficient than scanning filtered libs or creating a loop from raw components, then maybe it makes sense.

[Innermost]

I don't understand the value of using Gen-AI to generate samples in a world where something like Splice exists. In the time it takes to type a prompt, wait for the gen, review, refine, and wait again, you could have filtered and scanned through 50 to 100 premade samples/loops, many of which would likely do the job.

I guess if someone really needs 'free', or is chasing something so specific that AI prompting is more efficient than scanning filtered libs or creating a loop from raw components, then maybe it makes sense.

Who said there was a value of using Gen-AI to generate samples in the world you are describing?
What do you understand of my VST?

[audiojunkie]

In my view, AI is simply a new, powerful tool that will continue to improve. Like any tool, it can be used for bad or for good. The potential for bad is as strong as the potential for good, and like any new powerful tool, it can have a great deal of effect on whatever it is being used for. The point is, that useful tools don’t go away. They get used, as long as they are useful, or until something better replaces them.

So, assuming AI isn’t going to go away (which I believe will be the case), what can be done to mitigate the problems that people see with the technology? I would argue that this question is already being worked on.

They say necessity is the mother of invention. Already, science is working on ways to make data centers have less impact on the environment. It is very possible that innovations in environmentalism can come about because of these existing data centers. It is very possible that new conservation technologies can be developed from this. In fact, I would argue that in 10 years, there will be a whole new way that data centers run compared to how they run now and I bet they will be more convenient and more ecological and more environmentally friendly. I would also argue that they will also run much more efficiently than data centers of today and all of this will come about because of the concerns and complaints of the people about data centers. I work IT. Data centers have existed for decades and decades, and they don’t run very efficiently. However, attention is now on that very problem and there are new technologies and new ways of doing things that are being introduced. Even these days in the end, it is very possible that things could end up better than they were before because of the concerns people have with these data centers. Sure, AI data centers are huge, but don’t be naïve, data centers exist everywhere. In every hospital and every large business that I know of there is a data center running every place. An industry has a large set of computers being used, there is a data center. there are hundreds of thousands of data centers in the world that have absolutely nothing to do with AI. However, all of these data centers are going to benefit from the attention, AI data centers are putting eye on an issue that affects all data centers. After this, even the ones that aren’t for AI, will benefit.

[wagtunes]

Just for the hell of it, I went to the sales page. What does thins thing even do? Why would I download something that doesn't even tell me what it is?

Someone mentioned something about samples. Does this create sound samples based on your description? How the hell do you even describe sound?

Does anybody here know what this thing does? I know the OP's not going to tell me.

[Innermost]

Just for the hell of it, I went to the sales page. What does thins thing even do? Why would I download something that doesn't even tell me what it is?

Someone mentioned something about samples. Does this create sound samples based on your description? How the hell do you even describe sound?

Does anybody here know what this thing does? I know the OP's not going to tell me.

I feel happy that not knowing stimulated your curiosity
So yes, that's what I could call an AI generative multitrack sampler designed for Live and Jam sessions.
Every models run localy on your CPU.
The VST use Stable Audio 3 Medium in its ONNX version (a format designed for CPU optimization inference).

How I use these plugin:
- I load that into a Bitwig project
- As the VST is multioutput I had different FX chains on each track
- I plug my other instruments and VST in order to sync everything together
- Press play in the DAW and never press stop during all the live session, thanks to the architecture I built. Every generated sample is locked to the BPM and the scale, there are 4 pages per track, step sequencer, beat repeat, etc.
- If you want to create a new prompt, in the prompt bank on the left you can open the window to create your own prompts then drag and drop directly on the track where you want to generate, or using the drop down menu on the target track to choose your prompt in your list.
- I designed that for Live, that's why AI generated loops are limited to max 30s (which I find is too much, default value is 6s) and I encourage people to generate isolated instruments.
That's equaly the reason why I limited to 8 tracsk (with crossfaders, if on, it limits to 4 on the same time), I want people use that as any instrument, not to replace existing tools, just to explore a different way of playing with sounds.

So thanks for your feedback and your curiosity. That's the part of this job where it's difficult to me to explain everything it does, there's a GitHUB repo since one year now, everything is on the Readme, I dropped something like 60 or more demo videos on Youtube, I presented the project twice at AES (Audio Engeneering Society) and even wrote an academic paper for this project (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cwqmrV ... view?pli=1). I am also going to present it at Berlin in september for the AIMC2026 conference. So yes, making all of that by my own, takes a lot of time, so yep, my communication is not always its best.