AI disqualifies anyone as a musician! It's like playback.

[Innermost]

Turning off my connection only turns off my connection.

You're right, that doesn't turn off for everybody. Individual/isolated acts is not what is needed. It's mass action. If that's what you want to say with this message.
That makes me think about climate crisis, when medias make individuals feel guitly when nobody in this media ask the system in it self which leads to that climate crisis.

[BONES]

How is it? I'm just sharing my opinion, you don't need to mock me for it, goddamn!

It's hilarious that you seem to think your music is any less generic than Katy Perry's. Trust me, it's not. In fact, your stuff makes Katy Perry's seem fresh and new.

If the melodies are any good, they'll imply a chord progression.

The what now? Nobody needs melodies to write a song.

Otherwise it will become monotonous pretty quickly. IMO

Everything has it's place. Possibly my favourite song on our new album has the same, simple bassline through the whole song. It's just a 1 bar pattern of C1, C2 and C2#. Over and over again. It starts and stops a few times but that's it. Even the drums are just straight 4 on the floor with a sampled hi-hat loop. No fills, no rolls. The only other musical part is a TRK-01 (full version) arpeggio that only comes in twice, one for 8 bars and once for 4.

Musically, it is so simple, so repetitive that we'd never have come up with it ourselves but the AI did and we resisted the temptation to f**k with it too much. Why it works so well is because of the vocals. Even they are mostly spoken word but the pacing and arrangement of them, with the juxtaposition of the driving rhythm, are what makes the song work, and it works unbelievably well. I posted a link to the AI version on Soundcloud on one of these threads a few days ago, so you can hear for yourself how something simple, done well, can work. Here it is again -
https://soundcloud.com/novakill-1/silentconsent

Hate doesn't exist without Love.

I can assure you that it does.

Yep and then there is no internet connection for you (No internet no problem)

That's a very self-centred and selfish way to look at the world, don't you think? I think a much better approach for you would be to point out that the internet, overall, does far more good than harm. To simply suggest to someone that if they aren't happy with it they can simply opt-out is to tell them to abrogate their social responsibility, which is not a good look.

With the sonic power of the tools we have available today, I think the whole idea of chords is basically redundant. I realise that for guitarists it's how you access/create notes but keyboard players can have any combination of notes at any time, so it doesn't need to be a "thing" for us. It seems like a very restrictive way of approaching song writing to me, especially if it's the first thing you set and everything else has to hang off it.

[D-Fusion]

@Bones.
When people wish to force something on a population just because THEY don't like something like Seafire MK2 i offer them to be the change they want to see and lead by Example.

So when Seafire MK2 complain and want the Internet to be shut off for everyone i responded that Seafire could disconnect from the internet so it has nothing to do with you or anybody else.

So that quote you took out of context was aimed at Seafire MK2 since he want internet to be shut down for everyone...

The tiny out of context quoting from you to make other people look bad and to have something to be an ass about is getting boring.

You are welcome to join the full discussion on a subject but so far it doesn't look like you are capable to do that since it is all about taking things out of context and attack.

[Hipster Bales]

BONES, since when did I mention my own music in this? Also D-Fusion has a very good point. So stop having a go at people just for the sake of it.

D-Fusion, you’ve got a great point about BONES, he attacked my music just because I was sharing my opinion on something. It’s immature and just plain mean.

[D-Fusion]

BONES, since when did I mention my own music in this? Also D-Fusion has a very good point. So stop having a go at people just for the sake of it.

D-Fusion, you’ve got a great point about BONES, he attacked my music just because I was sharing my opinion on something. It’s immature and just plain mean.

Yep. It seems like he has a problem with staying focused on what the discussion is about and get selective and clip out small quotes to fit his arguments just to have someone to pick on.

I think he forgot to take his mid day nap and a burp on mommy's shoulder yesterday

[BONES]

If only it had been me who'd lost the thread and not young Hipster. But alas, he's the one who forgot the context and misread or misremembered the discussion, not me.

Your MIDI keyboards must be collecting dust then, or used by your bandmate.

Of course they're not collecting dust, they are in cases. But you'll find keyboards equally adept for playing single notes or chords, so one or two of 'em do get the occasional bit of work.

When people wish to force something on a population just because THEY don't like something like Seafire MK2 i offer them to be the change they want to see and lead by Example.

Don't be stupid. He made an off-the-cuff remark that you were dumb enough to respond to, so of course he went harder into it. You were just feeding the troll, dancing to Dave's little tune.

since when did I mention my own music in this?

You didn't and I wouldn't have brought it up if you hadn't asked what I found so hilarious. To explain, you said "... if you don't want your music sounding like an "Outkast type beat" or a generic "Katy Perry/Olivia Rodrigo fusion song", which I found hilarious because your music is every bit as derivative as those would be. Probably moreso.

Also D-Fusion has a very good point. So stop having a go at people just for the sake of it.

Really? Do you mean this one - "Suno is more of a entertaining money pit where the Suno company gets filthy rich and the subscribers loose money in the end." As I pointed out, no AI company has ever made a profit so nobody is getting "filthy rich" from AI subscriptions, which means D-Fusion's point is 100% WRONG.

D-Fusion, you’ve got a great point about BONES, he attacked my music just because I was sharing my opinion on something. It’s immature and just plain mean.

No, I attacked your opinion and used your "music" to illustrate my argument. I realise you probably aren't used to people presenting evidence when they say the first stupid thing that comes into their head but we're not all morons.

[D-Fusion]

https://www.google.com/search?q=suno+ne ... +net+worth

And their income is still climbing fast upwards

[Hipster Bales]

BONES, since when did I mention my own music in this? Also D-Fusion has a very good point. So stop having a go at people just for the sake of it.

D-Fusion, you’ve got a great point about BONES, he attacked my music just because I was sharing my opinion on something. It’s immature and just plain mean.

Yep. It seems like he has a problem with staying focused on what the discussion is about and get selective and clip out small quotes to fit his arguments just to have someone to pick on.

I think he forgot to take his mid day nap and a burp on mommy's shoulder yesterday

+1

For context, I was sharing my opinion/making a joke about how AI music sounds, and BONES had to be a mean a-hole and just attack my opinion. He must not know that terms like "generic" are subjective, not objective.

[D-Fusion]

If only it had been me who'd lost the thread and not young Hipster. But alas, he's the one who forgot the context and misread or misremembered the discussion, not me.

Your MIDI keyboards must be collecting dust then, or used by your bandmate.

Of course they're not collecting dust, they are in cases. But you'll find keyboards equally adept for playing single notes or chords, so one or two of 'em do get the occasional bit of work.

When people wish to force something on a population just because THEY don't like something like Seafire MK2 i offer them to be the change they want to see and lead by Example.

Don't be stupid. He made an off-the-cuff remark that you were dumb enough to respond to, so of course he went harder into it. You were just feeding the troll, dancing to Dave's little tune.

since when did I mention my own music in this?

You didn't and I wouldn't have brought it up if you hadn't asked what I found so hilarious. To explain, you said "... if you don't want your music sounding like an "Outkast type beat" or a generic "Katy Perry/Olivia Rodrigo fusion song", which I found hilarious because your music is every bit as derivative as those would be. Probably moreso.

Also D-Fusion has a very good point. So stop having a go at people just for the sake of it.

Really? Do you mean this one - D-Fusion: "Suno is more of a entertaining money pit where the Suno company gets filthy rich and the subscribers loose money in the end."

Bones: As I pointed out, no AI company has ever made a profit so nobody is getting "filthy rich" from AI subscriptions, which means D-Fusion's point is 100% WRONG.

D-Fusion, you’ve got a great point about BONES, he attacked my music just because I was sharing my opinion on something. It’s immature and just plain mean.

No, I attacked your opinion and used your "music" to illustrate my argument. I realise you probably aren't used to people presenting evidence when they say the first stupid thing that comes into their head but we're not all morons.

Suno gets a lot of money from it's userbase while 99.9% of the userbase ends up with paying more than they get in return as a Suno user.

Suno's net worth has grown a lot in the last year and is still climbing on the $ Meter so it's not false information at all.

https://www.google.com/search?q=suno+ne ... +net+worth

[starflakeprj]

Net worth is not the same as profitability, though. A rising valuation does not necessarily mean the company is currently making a profit.

[D-Fusion]

Net worth is not the same as profitability, though. A rising valuation does not necessarily mean the company is currently making a profit.

I know that net worth is not the same but net worth does get higher the more the company is earning.
Here is a closer look from the beginning and up to 2025

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/suno-statistics/

And here is a more recent one.
https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/27/ai-mu ... g-revenue/

[ThoughtExperiment]

...Nobody needs melodies to write a song...

Words to live by

(Quoted out of context just because...)

[starflakeprj]

Net worth is not the same as profitability, though. A rising valuation does not necessarily mean the company is currently making a profit.

I know that net worth is not the same but net worth does get higher the more the company is earning.
Here is a closer look from the beginning and up to 2025

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/suno-statistics/

And here is a more recent one.
https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/27/ai-mu ... g-revenue/

Neither of those articles reports Suno’s earnings or profit. They report revenue and annual recurring revenue, which are figures before expenses such as salaries, computing costs, licensing, legal costs and taxes.

Higher revenue may contribute to a higher valuation, but it does not tell us whether the company is profitable.

As an example, it took Spotify around 16 years from its public launch in 2008 to report its first profitable full year in 2024. During most of that period, Spotify had rapidly growing revenue and valuation while still reporting losses.

[Hipster Bales]

Huh, BONES got suspended, I wonder why.

[Seafire Mk2]

Probably because of a snowflake grass