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Frits van Zanten wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:25 pm I gave it some more tries, but it confirms what i wrote before: loading the VST3 in Ableton disables almost all Ableton navigation (DisAbleton ;-) ) .Play/stop won't work anymore, I guess 90% is not responding anymore. The only thing you can do is close Abeleton. Which I regret, for the plugin certainly has potential.
Ableton, let's fix Ableton :)

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No problem appreciating humor, but over the years I used/tried over 1500 plugins and this never happened before.

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MaZe 6000 wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 3:00 pm I think a change to the order of things in the GUI could make a big difference to make the signal flow much more obvious:

Take the left section (MIX/FX etc.) and put it to the right of Oscillator and Noise sections.
Then also change the order inside that section: Main Mix and Output on top, Filter in the Middle, FX on the bottom.
Now you have a clear order of things from top left to bottom right: Oscillator, Noise, Mix, Filter, FX

And to smoothe it out a little bit more, Attack and Decay of the Noise could be on top of the noise section, like on the oscillator, so you get a clear top row of things.

And finally the pitch mod section of the oscillator could go above the optional oscillator mode control boxes and get a little bigger knobs - so that this important part of oscillators is more central and obvious.

With that and consistent knob sizes and spacings, the GUI should be pretty much perfect I think.
Definitely not a bad GUI, just a bit confusing at first to find all controls with the overall structure not being immediately obvious. The graphics and colors are very nice!
I am currently implementing the ability to move and arrange some panels according to my own preferences,

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Frits van Zanten wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 8:22 am No problem appreciating humor, but over the years I used/tried over 1500 plugins and this never happened before.
I'll try to check it out and see how it works in practice. Maybe I can do something with it :). I'll send you the link when I get it sorted. There's still a lot of work to do on https://omnidaw.com/, it's a tough one.
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id3at wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 8:31 am

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id3at wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 8:31 am
Frits van Zanten wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 8:22 am No problem appreciating humor, but over the years I used/tried over 1500 plugins and this never happened before.
I'll try to check it out and see how it works in practice. Maybe I can do something with it :). I'll send you the link when I get it sorted. There's still a lot of work to do on https://omnidaw.com/, it's a tough one.
:tu: No problem, but it would be sad when this was overlooked and you lost all Ableton users as potential audience. In practice I can't use it now, unless applying a very elaborate workflow.

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Does this problem occur immediately after enabling the plugin, or after checking the sync or gate checkbox?

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Just tested it. Main factor seems to be 'plugin window open' (= GUI on screen). When GUI closed most navigation works again. But it is not that straightforward. After some operations things are locked 'permanently'.

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