Omnisphere Multi Out Routing Question - is there no other way?

[Caine123]

hi everyone,
it seems I got it working out in Bitwig how to route multi out channels, I use this a lot in FL Studio and want to use it in Bitwig as well to save RAM (afaik). so it looks like this now:

bitwig omnis.jpg

what really bothers me is that I have the 8-9 Omnisphere Out Busses + my 8 Instrument channels.
in FL Studio I can route it simply like this
1x Omnisphere + 8x Midi Outs (which are each to a Mixer channel) = 8 Mixer channels

here in Bitwig I got
1x Omnisphere (with 9 Busses Out - I guess I can remove one Bus out) + 8x Instruments (aka Midi Outs I guess you could call?) = 17 Mixer Channels, this is insane :/

is there no way to have this as short as in FL Studio? or maybe a way to hide the Instrument Channels in the mixer so I would rename them to the Omnisphere Bus Out?

thx

[stamp]

Put the instruments channels in a group...

[Trancit]

Yes, such types of DAWs are not very well equipped to work with multitimbral instruments...

That´s more a domain of stuff like Cubase, S1, Reaper... etc... which have the ability to either insert pure Midi tracks (like FLS Midi Out) without any Mixer channels bound to them and/or the ability to hide away mixer tracks only without hiding the actual arranger tracks...

In Bitwig or Ableton you have to live with this kind of "clutter"... there is no other way... at least none I would be aware of...

if you need to send Midi from a different track to something, you´d have to use an instrument track and have automatically a Mixer track which cannot be hidden individually...
As suggested you can just put the "Midi" tracks into a group and after editing collapse it that the visible track count gets less... but that´s all...

But if you work in FLS this way, you´d have to use different Midi colors (as seperate Midi channels) for the individual Midi Outs, wouldn´t you??
Not a very user friendly way to work either, isn´t it?

Either way and as said... such DAWs aren´t made for this kind of work and I personally stay away from using instruments in a multitimbral way... too cumbersome...no matter of the RAM usage...
Multi-Out ...yes... but not multitimbral...
Actually, I don´t even have any multitimbral instruments anymore...

[Caine123]

Put the instruments channels in a group...

thx i will list the problem with this down below.

Yes, such types of DAWs are not very well equipped to work with multitimbral instruments...

That´s more a domain of stuff like Cubase, S1, Reaper... etc... which have the ability to either insert pure Midi tracks (like FLS Midi Out) without any Mixer channels bound to them and/or the ability to hide away mixer tracks only without hiding the actual arranger tracks...

In Bitwig or Ableton you have to live with this kind of "clutter"... there is no other way... at least none I would be aware of...

if you need to send Midi from a different track to something, you´d have to use an instrument track and have automatically a Mixer track which cannot be hidden individually...
As suggested you can just put the "Midi" tracks into a group and after editing collapse it that the visible track count gets less... but that´s all...

But if you work in FLS this way, you´d have to use different Midi colors (as seperate Midi channels) for the individual Midi Outs, wouldn´t you??
Not a very user friendly way to work either, isn´t it?

Either way and as said... such DAWs aren´t made for this kind of work and I personally stay away from using instruments in a multitimbral way... too cumbersome...no matter of the RAM usage...
Multi-Out ...yes... but not multitimbral...
Actually, I don´t even have any multitimbral instruments anymore...

i never knew that the DAWs are so different from each other..... thought this is what they share each other and FL Studio the most cumbersome with routing, guess not :/

so yeah the Multi Out is indeed really more cumbersome in Bitwig than FL Studio, wow! the setup is maybe faster but the handling afterwards is just awkward!

first the great thing is if you save it as a template you can drag and drop this instantly in a project, just awesome, look at this! not so cumbersome like int FL Studio.

Bitwig Using Templates.gif

Duplicating is also easy and fast but yeah in FL Studio also not that bad.

but here it comes, so first thanks to both of you, I thought yeah grouping is a great idea but check this, this just sucks!

Bitwig Omnisphere grouping.gif

so here first ok if i group it then I cannot choose single instruments in the arranger, so i have to anyway extend the list to play with all 8 instruments/channels. but what SUCKS MORE is if you add effects you have to always switch back and forth as you cannot add to the instruments the effects but you need to add them to the Omnisphere Out Busses and then when you wanna play the channel you have to click back to the instument channel....... and so on....

so maybe i do something wrong or it is so tedious, i will write support as this is really something which bugs me, i cannot work like this with Omnisphere and this will suck more RAM have 8 instances vs 8 Instruments + 1 Instance.