Would seem Windows is still the best option for an Audio DAW and gaming?

[chk071]

..and just looking at the availability of native Linux plugins (of the 1000+ plugins I have not even 5% has a Linux installer), Linux is not an option. And definitely not for professional audio production.

Using Linux for audio equals masochism.

Thinking about it, that doesn't just apply to audio alone.

[legendCNCD]

Yeah the configuration is a swamp from hell when one would just like to make music. The only thing I configured my Win11Pro is to never update. Then started making music.

[PAK]

Maybe it has more options, but the first hasn't been proved in any way in audio prod.

Whilst games stress systems differently, if they run better on Linux (and it’s not that uncommon that they DO lately), it offers some indication that there seem to be issues with the Windows architecture and maybe, just maybe, it’s also running too much crap in the background at this point?

At the time, Korg discussed how the Oasys significantly out-performed what Windows would’ve allowed on that (Pentium 4) CPU.. and they had some direct points of reference since they’d also done the Legacy plugins. However that WAS their own custom build of Linux.

The main issue, for Linux, has always been the same. Even if something’s possible, if it doesn’t work (as expected) sometimes you’re in a world of hurt to solve it. The best bet still seems to be trying several distros until you get one that clicks with both you, your hardware, and your use case. Whilst the same can happen on Windows, it tends to be more about stopping Windows doing things with registry changes, rather than you’re missing x package and y permissions and z in a config file etc.

So Windows will still, generally, offer you an easier time than Linux. But Microsoft continues to go from bad to worse. The latest being Windows 11 GDID.

[keys_au1]

So here's another example, went to install LinuxSampler and Gigedit, nope cannot be done as the PPAs are not in the Ubuntu stable, ok, go to install the PPAs and the OS I am using advises they are all blocked, so now I need to go and find ways to unblock those, then try again to load the PPAs and THEN, finally, I may be able to install Gigedit and then LS....sheesh!!!

[audiojunkie]

So here's another example, went to install LinuxSampler and Gigedit, nope cannot be done as the PPAs are not in the Ubuntu stable, ok, go to install the PPAs and the OS I am using advises they are all blocked, so now I need to go and find ways to unblock those, then try again to load the PPAs and THEN, finally, I may be able to install Gigedit and then LS....sheesh!!!

Wait. You said that you were running on Nobara Linux three days ago. That's a Fedora downstream distro. You wouldn't run PPAs on Nobara, that's an Ubuntu specific package. You would want to use something from the COPR for Fedora-based distros, such as Audinux, where everything is prepared for you:

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs ... t/audinux/

Did you change distros to something other than Nobara within the last 3 days?

EDIT: Also, you would need more than just LinuxSampler and Gigedit. LinuxSampler is the engine. You need the GUI too. So you would need LinuxSampler, QSampler, and Gigedit (along with any necessary dependencies). They are all there and ready for use in the Audinux repository on the COPR.

[pekbro]

The gaming bottleneck is a HW thing, nothing to do with Linux. John Carmak had a good explanation about it in the past when being interviewed. Windows does not help the situation either, Linux is simply more efficient.

*Id Tech engine interview, forget which version, 4 I think it was. Essentially, it’s about the bandwidth between the GPU and other HW.

[keys_au1]

Wait. You said that you were running on Nobara Linux three days ago.

Nope, never said I was running it, just I MIGHT give it a try!

[Zeisner]

You could have asked me that years ago, or whenever you started doing that, and I could have told you.

Well, I didn't know you back then. Only the typical delusional fanatics/trolls who claim that Linux is perfect and can do everything much better than any other OS...

[D-Fusion]

You could have asked me that years ago, or whenever you started doing that, and I could have told you.

Well, I didn't know you back then. Only the typical delusional fanatics/trolls who claim that Linux is perfect and can do everything much better than any other OS...

I was a bit in the Linux Honeymoon phase a few months ago but i quickly realized it's shortcomings

Linux have issues just like any other OS but what i found to be the Most annoying with Linux after using only Linux in a 8 month period was the Lack of Backwards compatibillity and dependencies that got removed/broken after you uninstalled a program or did a system upgrade.

For linux to be a better OS it would need to be able to know what dependencies the various programs use and keep them.
I you uninstall one program and use the Autoremove command to clean up after that it removes the dependencies that the other programs use which makes the other installed programs broken and then you will need to find and re-install those dependencies again.

There is a clunky way to get around it by creating something like a Distrobox Container so the music programs and windows vst's won't get affected by a Upgrade or Changes to other programs so it is a great OS for those that want to tinker with a Modular OS like Linux but I found it to be to annoying in the end when i could just make a separate Offline windows Install with all my programs and games that works without any need for tweaking or tinkering and make a system image backup of that.

The best way to use Linux today is to only use native programs and for internet browsing if you are worried about Microsoft's heavy use of Telemetry and Privacy and keep a Offline Windows install on a separate partition/drive.

[eLawnMust]

Nope, Amiga is where it's at>>>

[MusicNoteHaven]

I switched to Ubuntu Studio 24.04 and it works great. Ardour is a great DAW. It does everything I could do on Windows, but faster.

I also have a sim racing setup running ACC and that works as well, including all in-game options.
The only thing I haven't managed to get working yet are the bass shakers. Under Windows, they made my seat and pedals vibrate during hard braking, acceleration, or when driving over the kerbs. But I am sure there is a solution for this.

[audiojunkie]

You could have asked me that years ago, or whenever you started doing that, and I could have told you.

Well, I didn't know you back then. Only the typical delusional fanatics/trolls who claim that Linux is perfect and can do everything much better than any other OS...

I was a bit in the Linux Honeymoon phase a few months ago but i quickly realized it's shortcomings

Linux have issues just like any other OS but what i found to be the Most annoying with Linux after using only Linux in a 8 month period was the Lack of Backwards compatibillity and dependencies that got removed/broken after you uninstalled a program or did a system upgrade.

For linux to be a better OS it would need to be able to know what dependencies the various programs use and keep them.
I you uninstall one program and use the Autoremove command to clean up after that it removes the dependencies that the other programs use which makes the other installed programs broken and then you will need to find and re-install those dependencies again.

There is a clunky way to get around it by creating something like a Distrobox Container so the music programs and windows vst's won't get affected by a Upgrade or Changes to other programs so it is a great OS for those that want to tinker with a Modular OS like Linux but I found it to be to annoying in the end when i could just make a separate Offline windows Install with all my programs and games that works without any need for tweaking or tinkering and make a system image backup of that.

The best way to use Linux today is to only use native programs and for internet browsing if you are worried about Microsoft's heavy use of Telemetry and Privacy and keep a Offline Windows install on a separate partition/drive.

You probably used more than one repository, and didn’t do any repository prioritization and app pinning. The package manager can and does manage the dependencies—it does it well. But if you are using more than one repository, there are some things you must configure and simple rules you must follow. You must configure the repository order. You configure the package manager to search and install packages from the default repo, and only use the next repo if you can’t find an app in the main repo. If you must use another repo that has some of the same apps as the main repo, always make sure you install from the main repo first.

Dependency hell occurs when conflicting software requirements, often caused by rogue third-party updates, create system instability. Implementing repository prioritization prevents this by forcing package managers to check official, stable sources before lower-priority repositories, eliminating circular dependencies and preventing repository cannibalization.

It’s not a problem with Linux. You just didn’t do your repository prioritization and follow best practices. The good news is that you are now learning about it, so you won’t have any problems in the future. This is a vital basic configuration step. It took me a while to learn this too. Now you know what to do so that you don’t have to worry about these issues any more.

[stoopicus]

Which leads me to conclude that it is still Windows that is best for doing both tasks on a single OS on a single machine.

It's definitely not my OS of choice, and I don't run it at home or at work, but this is an accurate statement, yes - especially for gaming.

[audiojunkie]

You could have asked me that years ago, or whenever you started doing that, and I could have told you.

Well, I didn't know you back then. Only the typical delusional fanatics/trolls who claim that Linux is perfect and can do everything much better than any other OS...

Yeah. The user’s lack of knowledge and inability to configure their machines properly couldn’t possibly be a problem.

[audiojunkie]

Which leads me to conclude that it is still Windows that is best for doing both tasks on a single OS on a single machine.

It's definitely not my OS of choice, and I don't run it at home or at work, but this is an accurate statement for those who don’t RTFM, yes - especially for gaming.

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