Wavetable Traction and Socalabs compatibility

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Hi, I've been exploring both synths and I think it's an extraordinary addition. But I would like to have just one, not both.

Is there any plan on being able to import Socalabs wavetables and patches into Traction version ?? In fact Tracktion is more complete, but Scalabs one has way more patches, which would be an starting point for Tracktions version new patches.

Also I think that Wavetable would be a wonderful platform for sharing patches with other users the way Vital users share banks. Anyone else thinks that could be interesting ??

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My plan way to import all the patches from the SocaLabs version into the Tracktion version, but I ran into a few issues:

- 100 of the wavetables in the SocaLabs version were cleared for the OpenSource version, but not cleared for the paid version. You could download them yourself: https://bvker.com/free-serum-wavetables/

- I used a different envelope, it's better because you can curve the segments. But it calculates release times different, SocaLabs version is based on time from 100%, where as Tracktion version it based on current value.

- Tracktion version has different LFOs and no step LFO.

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Hi Figbug and thanks for your answer. It's a shame that they aren't 100% compatible.

In any case if they were located at some directory maybe we could copy the patches and open them on the Traction version and finish adjustments manually.

Regarding the free open source tables, once downloaded how can be used on the Tracktion version ?? loaded one by one ??

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JordiTR wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:17 pm Hi, I've been exploring both synths and I think it's an extraordinary addition. But I would like to have just one, not both.
(...) In fact Tracktion is more complete, but Socaabs one has way more patches, which would be an starting point for Tracktions version new patches.
(...)
Same situation here. I add to this threads my list of the particular improvements which I found in the TRC version over the SocaLabs version, and vice versa, and include the comments already given by FigBug to have it all summarized here in one post:

TRC edition has extra:
  • OSC has more adjustment knobs
  • 2nd Filter available
  • ENV can curve the segments (note that it calculates release times different (is based on current value, while the SocaLabs edition is based on time from 100%))
  • 4th LFO is different, and all 4 offer much more design possibilities (they are advanced MSEG design instead of classical LFO design); in the SocaLabs edition the 4th LFO is a step LFO, while in the TRC edition all 4 LFOs can be adjusted to act in such steps of a beat
    practical difference:
    - LFO (Low Frequency Oscillator): produces a repeating modulation pattern automatically, based on a waveform (sine, triangle, square, etc.), speed, depth, and maybe a few options like sync to tempo or fade-in.
    - MSEG (Multi-Stage Envelope Generator): curve and draw your own modulation shape using multiple points.
    - the TRC edition can
    -- loop like an LFO, loop only part of the shape, play once like an ENV
    -- load 24 readily shaped curves, like a sine for instance
  • additionally available Fx:
    - EQ
    - Limiter
    - Filter
    - Gate with enhanced adjustment parameters
    - Reverb with enhanced choice, either chose a Natural or a Plate reverb
  • 4 Macros available
  • keyboard expression handles are directly visualized for mouse dragging them to their assignment target (SocaLabs has them only in the SRC list)
  • new wavetables can be added to an OSC by drag & drop, or via the + sign right top of the OSC pane, but they will inflate the *.tracktionedit file with for a human unreadable blocks of data because the wavetable data becomes inserted to it and will only be recognized by the particular Waveform project; note that only WAV format can be imported as provided for instance here: https://bvker.com/free-serum-wavetables/
  • new presets will be found by all Waveform Projects if placed into the respective folder (for instance on Linux):
    ~/.config/Tracktion/Wavetable/programs/
SocaLabs has extra:
  • coming as a separate plugin which can be used in any DAW (the TRC edition is baked into the WAVEFORM PRO app)
  • new wavetables can be placed to the respective folder and are always automatically found by the Wavetable plugin, independent of a Waveform project


SocaLabs & Tracktion in collaboration, what a fruitful win for us users! :tu:
Classical guitar --> Line Audio CM4 @ SSL12 --> KDE-Plasma @ Debian-Linux --> Waveform PRO 13.5

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