Native Instruments Reaktor 7 with VST export on the horizon?

[EvilDragon]

Not since January this year. But this thing has been brewing for a while.

[IvyBirds]

So inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.

Actually no, this all started development long before the insolvency saga and inMusic buyout. So inMusic did not figure anything out here, they are continuing to carry the torch though.

So this was occuring as inMusic was considering buying NI from the ashes, and subsequently did

So now inMusic is making money from it as we see with Super*Saw

So most certainly inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.

It’s impressive how much energy you put into confidently missing the entire point, It must be exhausting, spending all day building strawmen just to lose debates against them anyway

So tell us, I mean since you claim to know so much, does inMusic expect to make money from the Ni acquisition? If so wouldn't that mean they figured out a way to make money from plugins other people develop? Even if that means buying the assets of another company?

[concealed identity]

How is this thread already ruined

[IvyBirds]

How is this thread already ruined

It shouldn't be, but some people need to invent strawman arguments and don't understand what due diligence means when one company acquires another

It's simple inMusic plans to make make money from the NI Acquisition. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, or be a point of contention. But apparently for some people that is

[BBFG#]

Big companies often make more money by bankrupting acquisitions. They also do things to pump it up in the market before doing so to increase profits in other ways. Just a fact of doing business.

[dayjob]

Anyways, reaktor 7 with potentially big new things is nice to hear. Hopefully they make it easy for people to explore. I’m sure people making commercial ensembles are stoked.

[Echoes in the Attic]

So inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.

Actually no, this all started development long before the insolvency saga and inMusic buyout. So inMusic did not figure anything out here, they are continuing to carry the torch though.

So this was occuring as inMusic was considering buying NI from the ashes, and subsequently did

So now inMusic is making money from it as we see with Super*Saw

So most certainly inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.

It’s impressive how much energy you put into confidently missing the entire point, It must be exhausting, spending all day building strawmen just to lose debates against them anyway

So tell us, I mean since you claim to know so much, does inMusic expect to make money from the Ni acquisition? If so wouldn't that mean they figured out a way to make money from plugins other people develop? Even if that means buying the assets of another company?

what is the point of this post

do you think companies buy other companies as a kind gesture or to lose money?

[ghettosynth]

Five years ago this might have been a good idea, now it's a bit of a meh. Data flow languages are an abstraction over low level coding, but with LLMs, so is the English language now, and it's accessible to everyone. I regularly get comeons in my email from the various Reaktor devs. For someone already engaged with Reaktor, it's kind of a meh. If I'm not going to give you money for a your ensemble which would allow me to git into it and use bits of it, I'm certainly not going to give you money for a VST version of it that's opaque.

So, customers outside the ecosystem might, but, the target market for the product in the first place is devs with budgets willing to give up a part of their sales for NI distribution assistance? Maybe there's something there, maybe it will make NI a bit more interesting to some people, but I think that the glory days are over. I'm not using Reaktor anymore, and I was an outspoken advocate for years. You can't allow your proprietary building system to atrophy and then expect people to stay committed.

Meh, we'll see when it gets here. I will still have to have a Mac in my studio, that may or may not be true at the time. I doubt that they will ever support Linux.

[sunthief01]

We are starting to see trendy / smaller devs moving to Linux. There continues to be evidence of a windows exodus all over the scene. Here's hoping for a Linux beta!

[IvyBirds]

So inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.

Actually no, this all started development long before the insolvency saga and inMusic buyout. So inMusic did not figure anything out here, they are continuing to carry the torch though.

So this was occuring as inMusic was considering buying NI from the ashes, and subsequently did

So now inMusic is making money from it as we see with Super*Saw

So most certainly inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.

It’s impressive how much energy you put into confidently missing the entire point, It must be exhausting, spending all day building strawmen just to lose debates against them anyway

So tell us, I mean since you claim to know so much, does inMusic expect to make money from the Ni acquisition? If so wouldn't that mean they figured out a way to make money from plugins other people develop? Even if that means buying the assets of another company?

what is the point of this post

do you think companies buy other companies as a kind gesture or to lose money?

Are you asking me ot evil dragon? Apparently he thinks inMusic purchased NI with no clue about what was in the pipeline, or with no intention of monetizing it

Why else would he create a post with the sole purpose of arguing with my point that inMusic has figured out a way to make money money on plugins developed by other people? So you must have made a mistake by quoting me and not Evil Dragon

InMusic has been though enough acquisitions to do their due diligence and take a look at everything in the pipeline. Then decide if it makes sense to buy the company or not, and if they do if they should pull the plug on individual projects in development or not

I would think this is pretty basic stuff, and wouldn't be controversial but apparently it is,since you and Evil Dragon wish to continue to talk about it.

All I did was make a single comment, one that people like yourself and others quoted me and asked me direct questions that I then answered.

The future of Reaktor should be interesting. Its a shame NI left it to die on the vine for so long. This should have been done years ago

[dayjob]

Get a room.

[Munin]

I still think something like Reaktor has its place. After all hardware modular synths also never went away. People like to tinker.

[martinjuenke]

Trainwreck after two pages. KVR at its best.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I still think something like Reaktor has its place. After all hardware modular synths also never went away. People like to tinker.

I think the Reaktor concept is still unmatched. Let a user create synths and drum machines and experimental noise makers with custom guis and upload it to a user library to share. It’s great. What’s cool about many Reaktor ensembles is what’s cool about vintage synths. They are often designed with limitations, for a specific purpose and were fun because of the limitations. They were instruments that pushed you in a certain direction as opposed to endless sound laboratories. Now of course those monsters exist in the UL as well but the fun of Reaktor was finding something you probably would not have bought on its own and don’t really need but downloaded it and it surprised you with some idiosyncratic functionality you might not fully comprehend but it let you make something interesting.

[Kypresso]

Get a room.

Preferably padded.