Native Instruments Reaktor 7 with VST export on the horizon?
- KVRAF
- 24458 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Not since January this year. But this thing has been brewing for a while.
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- KVRAF
- 2959 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
So this was occuring as inMusic was considering buying NI from the ashes, and subsequently didEvilDragon wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 7:55 pmActually no, this all started development long before the insolvency saga and inMusic buyout. So inMusic did not figure anything out here, they are continuing to carry the torch though.IvyBirds wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 6:58 pmSo inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.
So now inMusic is making money from it as we see with Super*Saw
So most certainly inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.
It’s impressive how much energy you put into confidently missing the entire point, It must be exhausting, spending all day building strawmen just to lose debates against them anyway
So tell us, I mean since you claim to know so much, does inMusic expect to make money from the Ni acquisition? If so wouldn't that mean they figured out a way to make money from plugins other people develop? Even if that means buying the assets of another company?
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concealed identity concealed identity https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=215821
- KVRian
- 1088 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
How is this thread already ruined
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- KVRAF
- 2959 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
It shouldn't be, but some people need to invent strawman arguments and don't understand what due diligence means when one company acquires another
It's simple inMusic plans to make make money from the NI Acquisition. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, or be a point of contention. But apparently for some people that is
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- KVRAF
- 9154 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Big companies often make more money by bankrupting acquisitions. They also do things to pump it up in the market before doing so to increase profits in other ways. Just a fact of doing business.
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- KVRAF
- 3433 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
Anyways, reaktor 7 with potentially big new things is nice to hear. Hopefully they make it easy for people to explore. I’m sure people making commercial ensembles are stoked.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12068 posts since 12 May, 2008
what is the point of this postIvyBirds wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 8:14 pmSo this was occuring as inMusic was considering buying NI from the ashes, and subsequently didEvilDragon wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 7:55 pmActually no, this all started development long before the insolvency saga and inMusic buyout. So inMusic did not figure anything out here, they are continuing to carry the torch though.IvyBirds wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 6:58 pmSo inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.
So now inMusic is making money from it as we see with Super*Saw
So most certainly inMusic has figured out a way to get revenue from plugins other people develop.
It’s impressive how much energy you put into confidently missing the entire point, It must be exhausting, spending all day building strawmen just to lose debates against them anyway
So tell us, I mean since you claim to know so much, does inMusic expect to make money from the Ni acquisition? If so wouldn't that mean they figured out a way to make money from plugins other people develop? Even if that means buying the assets of another company?
do you think companies buy other companies as a kind gesture or to lose money?
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- KVRAF
- 16918 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Five years ago this might have been a good idea, now it's a bit of a meh. Data flow languages are an abstraction over low level coding, but with LLMs, so is the English language now, and it's accessible to everyone. I regularly get comeons in my email from the various Reaktor devs. For someone already engaged with Reaktor, it's kind of a meh. If I'm not going to give you money for a your ensemble which would allow me to git into it and use bits of it, I'm certainly not going to give you money for a VST version of it that's opaque.
So, customers outside the ecosystem might, but, the target market for the product in the first place is devs with budgets willing to give up a part of their sales for NI distribution assistance? Maybe there's something there, maybe it will make NI a bit more interesting to some people, but I think that the glory days are over. I'm not using Reaktor anymore, and I was an outspoken advocate for years. You can't allow your proprietary building system atrophy and then expect people to stay committed.
Meh, we'll see when it gets here. I will still have to have a Mac in my studio, that may or may not be true at the time. I doubt that they will ever support Linux.
So, customers outside the ecosystem might, but, the target market for the product in the first place is devs with budgets willing to give up a part of their sales for NI distribution assistance? Maybe there's something there, maybe it will make NI a bit more interesting to some people, but I think that the glory days are over. I'm not using Reaktor anymore, and I was an outspoken advocate for years. You can't allow your proprietary building system atrophy and then expect people to stay committed.
Meh, we'll see when it gets here. I will still have to have a Mac in my studio, that may or may not be true at the time. I doubt that they will ever support Linux.
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- KVRist
- 147 posts since 15 Dec, 2023
We are starting to see trendy / smaller devs moving to Linux. There continues to be evidence of a windows exodus all over the scene. Here's hoping fr a Linux beta!
