Hi gang, sometimes (most times actually) while playing a song in Tracktion, after hitting stop, the MIDI notes that were currently playing just keep sustaining. I have to change programs on my synth usually to stop the sound. I've tried enabling and disabling end-to-end, but it still does it. Can someone help? Thanks!
Dave
Stopping a song doesn't always stop MIDI notes from playing
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
Sounds like hung notes (not the last notes that were playing)
This usually happens when you edit midi file,
when you slice and join them it can create these problems.
It usually happens with tiny "midi residue".
There is no easy way to get rid of them except for zooming in hard and visually looking for them.
You can also listen and try to determine the exact note that is stuck, this way you can scan only that grid on the piano roll. (kinnda narrowing down the problem, it helps a little bit)
Or you can play and stop the song , section by section trying to narrow down the location where the problem is.
This usually happens when you edit midi file,
when you slice and join them it can create these problems.
It usually happens with tiny "midi residue".
There is no easy way to get rid of them except for zooming in hard and visually looking for them.
You can also listen and try to determine the exact note that is stuck, this way you can scan only that grid on the piano roll. (kinnda narrowing down the problem, it helps a little bit)
Or you can play and stop the song , section by section trying to narrow down the location where the problem is.
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
If you are using the sustain pedal, you could be stopping it while the pedal-on message is still active. It needs a pedal off message to make it stop. Sometimes you can stop recording a clip without letting the pedal come off. And sometimes it's not even noticed until playback.
You can select the track giving you problems with the proper input, then push the pedal down once to make it stop. This is what I do if I have a non-sustaining, constant sound, like an organ, and I can't get it to stop.
Or just go to the end of a clip and program a pedal off message to make whatever was sustaining go off. This is probably the best way. Good luck, and let us know what happens.
Koolkeys
You can select the track giving you problems with the proper input, then push the pedal down once to make it stop. This is what I do if I have a non-sustaining, constant sound, like an organ, and I can't get it to stop.
Or just go to the end of a clip and program a pedal off message to make whatever was sustaining go off. This is probably the best way. Good luck, and let us know what happens.
Koolkeys
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- KVRist
- 64 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from Lancashire UK
Also get it on various synths with the midi clip edited and unedited. I just program in a pedal off message.
"It is better to say nothing and be thought an idiot, than open your mouth and prove it"
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 2 posts since 4 Feb, 2004
I use alot of sustain pedal in my midi recordings, so that must be what's going on. It's not that Tracktion isn't recording a "sustain off" event, it just happens when I happen to stop playing back my song while notes are being sustained by an event.
I guess I have a beef now, every other midi sequencer I've used has never hung notes after stopping playback. I guess other sequencers must automatically sent a sustain off message?
Update: I just noticed in the settings area a "send all-controllers-off midi message when play stops" checkbox. This could be what I needed (it wasn't checked before). I'll let you know if that does the trick.
Dave
I guess I have a beef now, every other midi sequencer I've used has never hung notes after stopping playback. I guess other sequencers must automatically sent a sustain off message?
Update: I just noticed in the settings area a "send all-controllers-off midi message when play stops" checkbox. This could be what I needed (it wasn't checked before). I'll let you know if that does the trick.
Dave
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 19 Jan, 2005
I just got a free Cubase LE, for OSX, with my Tascam US-122 ... that's the only reason I was using it instead of tracktion. Anyway, I got hung notes with that one [and I haven't used a sustain pedal, as far as I know*]. Couldn't find a MIDI panic button, either. Think I saw an app on the web for OSX that is just a MIDI panic button -- sends an All Notes Off on all channels.
*I use a Roland GR-33 guitar synth, so maybe it uses the sustain pedal command for something, even if I don't press a pedal. I dunno. I do know that it sends pitch bend messages unless I set it to "Chromatic", and the sequences I make are just covered with pb messages. If I remove them, I often find that the actual note, in the piano roll, is a different note than the one I played, but the pitch bends got thrown in to "correct" it. To my ear, it sounds like the right note, and if I leave the pitch bends in, it sounds OK. If I edit them out, I sometimes must also move the note up or down in piano roll back to the pitch I heard before I scrubbed out pb.
*I use a Roland GR-33 guitar synth, so maybe it uses the sustain pedal command for something, even if I don't press a pedal. I dunno. I do know that it sends pitch bend messages unless I set it to "Chromatic", and the sequences I make are just covered with pb messages. If I remove them, I often find that the actual note, in the piano roll, is a different note than the one I played, but the pitch bends got thrown in to "correct" it. To my ear, it sounds like the right note, and if I leave the pitch bends in, it sounds OK. If I edit them out, I sometimes must also move the note up or down in piano roll back to the pitch I heard before I scrubbed out pb.