What the hell is that even supposed to mean?rpc9943 wrote:teh plugs are boni
Why I will upgrade to Tracktion 2 - the Double Take
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
(shhhh--you'll wake him)
Don't forget, he's a communications major.
Tom
Don't forget, he's a communications major.
Tom
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- KVRist
- 125 posts since 31 May, 2004
With the improved midi editing, prettified color scheme, and ability to hide inputs and filters, I'm sure I'll be moving to T2 as well.
That said, I'm still disappointed in the bundled plugins. RMIV may be nice but DFH Superior suits my needs far better, so RMIV is just another useless bundled plugin to me. SampleTank SE doesn't hold a candle to HALion or Kontakt, which, incidentally, render the bs-1 redundant as well. Slayer2 isn't going to take the place of my guitar/PodXT Pro combination. The only non-free plugin on the list that bears any potential, for me, is Final Mix, and I won't know that one until I get a chance to master.
I was already happy with the plugins that came with T1. Between Jules's homegrown Tracktion plugs and the mda VSTs that were bundled, the basics were covered as well as any other application on the market. If there was room for improvement, it wasn't in functionality, but in quality (compare to Sonar's bundling of the Ultrafunk suite). But I wasn't complaining about that, either, since Sonar cost five times as much, and I could buy better plugs for less with all the money I saved on Tracktion.
The real question is, how much of the price of T2 is meant to offset Mackie's costs in bundling these plugins? I doubt the free ones like ZR-3 and Cheeze Machine contributed to that. Since SampleTank SE is a scaled-down version of their flagship offering, IK Multimedia may be allowing Mackie to bundle it for free, just for the advertising, in hopes that users will upgrade to SampleTank XL or somesuch. Final Mix is already distributed by Mackie, and is meant to really shine on their UFX hardware, so Mackie could be eating the cost of that one. But the others aren't easily explained away.
I just can't help but think that if we're the ones eating the cost of these plugs, that money might have been better spent on better plugs. As it stands, they're all beaten, and beaten HARD, by the competition.
Of course, my argument falls apart if the plugins aren't a part of the price of T2. I've already stated that I'll be getting T2 for just a subset of its new features. That means that T2 is worth $200 all by itself to me. I'll be happy with that, just not as happy as I could be, that's all. I just hope those plugs don't get automatically installed with T2, because for me, they're just a waste of disk space.
That said, I'm still disappointed in the bundled plugins. RMIV may be nice but DFH Superior suits my needs far better, so RMIV is just another useless bundled plugin to me. SampleTank SE doesn't hold a candle to HALion or Kontakt, which, incidentally, render the bs-1 redundant as well. Slayer2 isn't going to take the place of my guitar/PodXT Pro combination. The only non-free plugin on the list that bears any potential, for me, is Final Mix, and I won't know that one until I get a chance to master.
I was already happy with the plugins that came with T1. Between Jules's homegrown Tracktion plugs and the mda VSTs that were bundled, the basics were covered as well as any other application on the market. If there was room for improvement, it wasn't in functionality, but in quality (compare to Sonar's bundling of the Ultrafunk suite). But I wasn't complaining about that, either, since Sonar cost five times as much, and I could buy better plugs for less with all the money I saved on Tracktion.
The real question is, how much of the price of T2 is meant to offset Mackie's costs in bundling these plugins? I doubt the free ones like ZR-3 and Cheeze Machine contributed to that. Since SampleTank SE is a scaled-down version of their flagship offering, IK Multimedia may be allowing Mackie to bundle it for free, just for the advertising, in hopes that users will upgrade to SampleTank XL or somesuch. Final Mix is already distributed by Mackie, and is meant to really shine on their UFX hardware, so Mackie could be eating the cost of that one. But the others aren't easily explained away.
I just can't help but think that if we're the ones eating the cost of these plugs, that money might have been better spent on better plugs. As it stands, they're all beaten, and beaten HARD, by the competition.
Of course, my argument falls apart if the plugins aren't a part of the price of T2. I've already stated that I'll be getting T2 for just a subset of its new features. That means that T2 is worth $200 all by itself to me. I'll be happy with that, just not as happy as I could be, that's all. I just hope those plugs don't get automatically installed with T2, because for me, they're just a waste of disk space.