Tracktion and Audition revisited

[Lunch Money]

Adobe are smart in offering their 30-day fully-functional trial.

Due to giving this (and some of the less expensive editors) a whirl, it's inconceivable that my future will NOT have Audition in it. I may not have a lot of money, but I've suddenly re-prioritized my music purchasing for the future. I've been considering a few different plug-ins and a few different pieces of hardware (I need LCD monitors some day, and even mediocre studio nearfields will be better than my multimedia speakers), but that's all out the window.

I am loving every second of Audition. It complements Tracktion is a way that fits in perfectly with my way of working. I have never seen the big deal about 'realtime' or 'latency-free' processing, which makes the suite of Audition's effects and algorithms perfect for me.

-record in Tracktion
-run the noise reduction in Audition
-normalize and/or use other dynamics in Audition
-fix vocals ( ) in Audition
-Arrange and add further effects in Tracktion
-Final Mixdown in Tracktion
-Final 'Master' in Audition

I really don't know how I'm going to live without Audition now that I'm accustomed to it and have had a chance to start getting more deeply into it.

If I had to choose between one and the other (thankfully I don't!) it would still have to be Tracktion, because it's the environment I work in. With Audition, it's like "OK, I need to pop down to the lab for a moment", but the results from the lab are wonderful.

I'm in

Now, as some of you know, I'm not exactly "cheap" (though that's how I refer to myself because it's easier), but I don't have a lot of cash to throw around. This will largely depend on if I qualify for the Educational discount; however, I'm nuts for this thing.

[headquest]

Well I for one think your on the right lines LM. There's lots of software for music out there, but few programs have really impressed me. And many things have either failed to impress me (e.g. Cubase SX, Sonar) or only impressed me for a short while (Live 4, FL). But Audition and Tracktion are both programs that consistently blow my mind in terms of how powerful they are. (The only other one for me being Reason, because the sound quality/CPU ratio defies explanation )

The workflow you describe is basically mine too. Although for audio-only projects I can sometimes *just* use Audition, and for MIDI sequencing high-jinx I could stick to Reason, the fact is that Tracktion sits so perfenctly between them as a main workspace that I'd be mad to forgo the pleasure

So good luck and I hope you get the discount you're after. Audition is a great purchase that you really won't regret.

It's a deep program though, so if you get stuck at all or need advice feel free to PM me.

[FENder6]

I'm about to build a new DAW and i'll be upgrading to WinXP - so i decided to check and see if Adobe offered an upgrade from Cool Edit 2000 to Audition. They do (for $169.00 american smackers - savings of about $130.00!), so i'll be upgrading to Audition. I've been using Cool Edit as my main audio editing tool since the early/mid nineties when it first came out. I also have a "special" edition of Cool Edit Pro that came with my soundcard. I honestly can't see using anything else for major surgery. I've got Sound Forge 6, but i just never felt at ease in it's environment - it seemed "cold". Cool Edit (Audition) is down home all the way and a perfect companion to Tracktion (or any major sequencer for that matter).

Due to giving this (and some of the less expensive editors) a whirl, it's inconceivable that my future will NOT have Audition in it. I may not have a lot of money, but I've suddenly re-prioritized my music purchasing for the future. I've been considering a few different plug-ins and a few different pieces of hardware (I need LCD monitors some day, and even mediocre studio nearfields will be better than my multimedia speakers), but that's all out the window.

I am loving every second of Audition. It complements Tracktion is a way that fits in perfectly with my way of working. I have never seen the big deal about 'realtime' or 'latency-free' processing, which makes the suite of Audition's effects and algorithms perfect for me.

-record in Tracktion
-run the noise reduction in Audition
-normalize and/or use other dynamics in Audition
-fix vocals ( ) in Audition
-Arrange and add further effects in Tracktion
-Final Mixdown in Tracktion
-Final 'Master' in Audition

I really don't know how I'm going to live without Audition now that I'm accustomed to it and have had a chance to start getting more deeply into it.

If I had to choose between one and the other (thankfully I don't!) it would still have to be Tracktion, because it's the environment I work in. With Audition, it's like "OK, I need to pop down to the lab for a moment", but the results from the lab are wonderful.

I'm in

Now, as some of you know, I'm not exactly "cheap" (though that's how I refer to myself because it's easier), but I don't have a lot of cash to throw around. This will largely depend on if I qualify for the Educational discount; however, I'm nuts for this thing.

[nuisance sonore]

There is quite a few floating around on Ebay, some unlegit, sure, but those are easy to smell out, and quite a few legit bargain; after all, I sold my Matrox rtx 10 which included Audition, Encore and Premiere on Ebay(the only thing I regret is Audition), everything fully legit and that was a real bargain for the one who bought it.

Maybe something to look at for somebody with more talent than cash.

http://search.ebay.com/audition_Softwar ... acatZ18793

[headquest]

I'm about to build a new DAW and i'll be upgrading to WinXP - so i decided to check and see if Adobe offered an upgrade from Cool Edit 2000 to Audition. They do (for $169.00 american smackers - savings of about $130.00!), so i'll be upgrading to Audition. I've been using Cool Edit as my main audio editing tool since the early/mid nineties when it first came out. I also have a "special" edition of Cool Edit Pro that came with my soundcard. I honestly can't see using anything else for major surgery. I've got Sound Forge 6, but i just never felt at ease in it's environment - it seemed "cold". Cool Edit (Audition) is down home all the way and a perfect companion to Tracktion (or any major sequencer for that matter).

I think the upgrade is worth it. With Audition 1.0, Adobe basically just put their badge on the program, but with the update to v.1.5 they have made some significant - and to be honest unexpected - improvements.

You must check out what can be done with the frequency spectrum editin, for example. you can use the marque tool to square off specific frequencies and edit or effect them in isolation. Very powerful stuff, and not something you are likely to find elsewhere!

ReWire depends on your other software kit list, but for those of use who have Reason, Audition is also a perfect companion, and ReWIre is very effective.

VST effects are also a good addition. Like Lunch Money, I like to have the option of destructive editing, and the preview feature is so simple to use that you might miss the powerful adjustable pre- and post-roll times that underpin it.

I could go on but I'll bore you

Suffice it to say that the package justifies the name Audition 2.0, such are the improvements. But it's called 1.5 to tie in with Premier Pro 1.5 and Encore DVD 1.5, if you see what I mean

[IIRs]

multimedia speakers

you absolutely sure you've got your priorities right?

[Lunch Money]

Nope. But I do most of my mixing with headphones, so the speakers are secondary. Also, until I have the right acoustically treated environment and a decent pair of monitors (ie. better than Edirol MA-10D's which is about all I can afford if I get anything right now), no nearfields will give me a 'true' signal for mix.

So... $800 vs. $180. Prices being equal, I'd probably be better off with monitors. But prices NOT being equal, I think Audition is the next best thing I can do to improve my home recording experience.

Speaking of help in Audition-- is there a pencil tool for manually adjusting clicks/spikes? Haven't found one yet.

Greg

[headquest]

Speaking of help in Audition-- is there a pencil tool for manually adjusting clicks/spikes? Haven't found one yet.

Greg

Hi Greg,

Can you explain what you mean here? What are you trying to do?

[AD80]

Speaking of help in Audition-- is there a pencil tool for manually adjusting clicks/spikes? Haven't found one yet.

Greg

Once you zoom in close enough, the anchor points will show up and the arrow tool will turn into a hand which will let you adjust the anchor points of the wave. So just keep zooming in until you see anchor points on the wave.

[headquest]

Oh I see what you mean

Yeah, this way you can do things manually.

Alternatively, you can switch view to frequency spectrum and you can clearly see and remove clicks without affecting the level/etc of other sounds in the audio. Very powerful.

ANd yet another thing you coul do is use the CLick/Pop removal from the effects menu. This is not manual in the way you ask for, but IS very effective, as is the clip restoration below it on the menu.

So basically Audition gives you a variety of ways to eliminate unwanted noises in your audio... but the way AD80 describes is closest to a pencil and gives specific conrol in terms of amplitude, if not frequency.

[Lunch Money]

Yeah, that handle tool was pretty much what I was after.

The 'automatic' pop and click removal filters are handy, too, but sometimes there's just one wee problematic blip I'd rather take care of manually. Powerful-tastic!

Greg

[AD80]

You should also try the frequency spectrum method like Headquest mentioned. Its awome!

[IIRs]

Nope. But I do most of my mixing with headphones, so the speakers are secondary.

I might have to revoke your license to use IQ4 until you upgrade.

While I'm here, could you all please stop going on about Audition? I really can't be spending that kind of money at the moment!

Not with T2 on the horizon anyway..

[Lunch Money]

This hobby is a constant source of money drainage for me. And I'm not likely to ever recoup any of it by selling anything that I create. On my list:

-decent nearfields
-Amplitube 2 (well, I haven't heard the demos yet..)
-Orchestral Library
-Audition
-MIDI keyboard to replace the consumer-grade Yamaha I've been using
-LCD monitors
-as many guitars and basses as I can afford
-a REAL tube amp other than the Garnet some day

*sigh*



Greg

[glurgle]

-An audio interface of any sort
-Real monitors (not the MA-10D's I have now )
-A real microphone (not one I nicked from a dusty closet in a reception hall)
-z-tar
-steinberger USA series guitar


*sigh* x 1000