Harmonizer built in Racks- showing the power of Racks

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I was just messing around and came up with a nifty little setup for an auto-harmonizer plug-in using Racks and the free MIDI VST plug-ins from

http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/ndcmidi.htm

With this you can set the velocity for each note, and even the channel so if you want to set different instruments to different channels, like to have a string section, you can. Just set each Transpose module to the interval you want, and then each channel where you want.

And you can control the velocity of each note in comparison to each other.

I hope someone finds this useful. Any ideas to make it better?

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Koolkeys

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No template .trunkedit :?:

i never see thease posted on this forum (allthough i am still a newbee) wen i work with my msn buddies in this way we send templates so u can play straight away, & the tracktion arcive must be the same size as that jpg


well if it dosent work it was worth a try :D


EDIT: witch vershion of T is that, it looks suspect to me??

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There is no need for a template file. Just get those plugs and line them up as shown. Also, you have to choose whatever synth or sampler you want to use. I used ST Free in the picture, but you would have to replace that in the template if I included one. It really only takes a minute or two to set it up.

Any ideas of what to add to make it better?

Oh, and it's T1. I only wish it was T2 I was using. But I'm happy nonetheless.

Koolkeys

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koolkeys wrote: Any ideas of what to add to make it better?
maby somthing to slightley offset the timing of the harmonis

unless u can do this all ready in this set up??

what settings are the midi fx set to to get it to harmonize (well a good starting point) plz? :D

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Well, it just depends on what notes you want to harmonize too. If you look, these particular plugs go by how many half-steps you want the note transposed.

For instance, if you want to play one note and have it's major triad played, you would set one to 0, one to 4 half steps, and one to 7 half steps. This makes a major chord with whatever note you play.

Or you can just expiriment. You can add more levels to have more harmonized notes, or take away and do just two notes. Set one to 0 and one to 5 to have your note harmonized in fourths, giving sort of an oriental sound to whatever you play. Or enter 12 on the second one to have octaves played.

Just mess around. You'll find uses, I'm sure. Also, I'll look for a plug-in to offset the timing. Anyone know of one?

Koolkeys

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koolkeys, something you might want to add is routing all of them through the MIDIFORCE2KEY plugin. This will let you set up a scale that all notes will snap to. So you don't always have the same major triad. You would have to duplicate (triplicate?) all of them if you wanted seperate channels.

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Hmmm, so would that make it the diatonic chords? That is a great idea! For me, I don't want all major chords. Diatonic are more usable. I'll have to experiment with this idea a bit. But maybe through some testing, we can come up with a pretty nice "plug-in" harmonizer? I wish there was an easier way of sharing Racks. or did someone figure out a way?

I'll let you know how the Force2key works.

Koolkeys

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Ok, I'm trying to figure out the best place to put the Force2key. Maybe after each transpose module? Put the same scale on each one?

OK, I GOT IT! You put the Force2key after each transpose, and leave it at default settings. This will give you the diatonic chords for the key of C. For other keys, you would have to change each scale on each Force2key. This seems to be a pain, but it's the only way I can see. If you route it all through one Force2key, you lose your channel setting option. Maybe save a Rack for each key you ever use?

I'm actually getting lots of ideas for things here. But I need to sleep. I'll mess with it more tomorrow. G'nite.

Koolkeys

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Ok, so I'm now trying to figure out a way to pan each of the notes to different places. Is there a pan VST plug-in or something similar? This would be great for things like string ensembles and such.

And still looking into the timing thing. Maybe insert a delay with an all wet signal? Would that do the trick? I'm not at home, so I can't show the pics of what I'm doing. My laptop doesn't get internet here at school, so I'll have to go home tonight to try this.

Does anyone else have an idea for this? Or maybe another kind of Rack Filter setup for a different effect? I think it would be cool to share these things.

Koolkeys

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Panning each note individually would require using 3 synths and panning their outputs. A delay with an all wet signal would be the same. This would of course require 3 unique channels of midi, meaning 3 instances of Force2key.

I'm not aware of any way to do "per-note" panning with MIDI alone. (or any softsynth that supports it). Another extension I can think of is throwing arps into the mix.

I'd be happy to share some presets if I had any, but I use eXT for everything like this now. It's handling of MIDI (and continuous controllers in particular) is absolutely stellar, and racks feel limited to me in comparison. (plus I prefer the eXT interface to racks)

Still some fun stuff :)

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Cool stuff Koolkeys. I'm giving it a try now.
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So the panning would just have to be done inside the synth then probably. Unless there was a way to pan a MIDI channel? Then if you just recieved the channels in omni mode or something like that, they could all go to the same patch. I'm getting confused. Maybe I'll forget about the panning. It can just be done in the synth.

But about the delay, isn't there a MIDI delay VST out there? I could have sworn I've seen one. I'll have to check.

Koolkeys

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