i've looked thru the features of t2 and haven't seen a anything about a mixer. am i the only one that thinks it needs a mixer?
thoughts, comments, (cursewords...)
native mixer
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
Yes, you're the only one 
Tom
(It's been discussed and debated ever since I can remember. I'm on the "who needs a mixer when you can do it all on one screen?" side.)
Tom
(It's been discussed and debated ever since I can remember. I'm on the "who needs a mixer when you can do it all on one screen?" side.)
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 10 Jul, 2003 from Rotterdam
there might be a couple of others who agree it needs a mixer.. but it seems like a tiny minority.
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- KVRAF
- 5257 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
Yep, just you 
Intel Core i7 8700K, 16gb, Windows 10 Pro, Focusrite Scarlet 6i6
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 188 posts since 21 Dec, 2004
really? didn't see this comin?cbit wrote:there might be a couple of others who agree it needs a mixer.. but it seems like a tiny minority.
and what about sends/returns?
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
Sends/Returns are due to arrive in March, as previously mentioned by Beno.
Tom
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Apart from the March bit. They come in T2. Although you can already do them in T1 using Racks.SaviorNeeded wrote:Sends/Returns are due to arrive in March, as previously mentioned by Beno.
Tom
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 10 Jul, 2003 from Rotterdam
most people here (myself included) think that the lack of a mixer is an advantage. It enables almost all track work to be done on a single screen.
Everything that's possible with a traditional mixer is also possible with t1 (afaik) (the possible excepting being sends, which are still possible, but a little clunky to arrange at the moment.. simple sends are coming soon, as mentioned).. So it might be useful to think of tracktions mixer as being 'dissolved' and integrated more closely with the sequencer's tracks, rather than being non existant.
Everything that's possible with a traditional mixer is also possible with t1 (afaik) (the possible excepting being sends, which are still possible, but a little clunky to arrange at the moment.. simple sends are coming soon, as mentioned).. So it might be useful to think of tracktions mixer as being 'dissolved' and integrated more closely with the sequencer's tracks, rather than being non existant.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
They have the advantage of being true stereo however, unlike most software mixer auxiliaries.cbit wrote:(the possible excepting being sends, which are still possible, but a little clunky to arrange at the moment.. simple sends are coming soon, as mentioned)..
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 13 Oct, 2003
i can't understand, why all allway say tracktion has no mixer. all the faders on the screen ARE a mixer. if you turn your monitor 90° it even looks like a normal mixer 
but i also mis some of the mixerfeatures like having a eq and sends that i can change directly an every channel. not klick on the auxsend->go down to the details->change the sendlevel and that vor every channel i like to change the sendlevel. same thing for eq. that's NOT an improvement of workflow even if it's all on one screen. so i think there ARE reasons someone wants to have a mixer. and not to have one isn't THAT cool as so many here trying to say.
but i also mis some of the mixerfeatures like having a eq and sends that i can change directly an every channel. not klick on the auxsend->go down to the details->change the sendlevel and that vor every channel i like to change the sendlevel. same thing for eq. that's NOT an improvement of workflow even if it's all on one screen. so i think there ARE reasons someone wants to have a mixer. and not to have one isn't THAT cool as so many here trying to say.-
- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
I agree with aldi.
Mixer is there with the volume and pan pots. Aux sends are not native.
I recommend not using racks but ModulR's excellent freebie plugin 'senderella' - easier to implement than with racks.
Go with the newest simplified version of senderella and never be worried about aux sends again, at least until T2 arrives.
Get it here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1433.html
-Scott
Mixer is there with the volume and pan pots. Aux sends are not native.
I recommend not using racks but ModulR's excellent freebie plugin 'senderella' - easier to implement than with racks.
Go with the newest simplified version of senderella and never be worried about aux sends again, at least until T2 arrives.
Get it here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1433.html
-Scott
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 25 Nov, 2004
No.lightshy wrote:i've looked thru the features of t2 and haven't seen a anything about a mixer. am i the only one that thinks it needs a mixer?
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Well, T2 supports midi controller mapping. If you need a hardware mixer paradigm, map a hardware midi controller to the volume and pan filters. Mix using a hardware device, with all the hands on control that offers you, to be able to change multiple volumes and pans at the same time etc.
If you don't need that ... you don't need a software mixer. You're mixing audio. It doesn't matter how large or small stuff is on screen, it's what you hear that matters. Go off what your ears tell you, not your eyes. It doesn't matter how it's graphically laid out, as your mouse can only change one volume or pan at a time anyway.
If you don't need that ... you don't need a software mixer. You're mixing audio. It doesn't matter how large or small stuff is on screen, it's what you hear that matters. Go off what your ears tell you, not your eyes. It doesn't matter how it's graphically laid out, as your mouse can only change one volume or pan at a time anyway.
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
No, but you ARE one of the few. Most of us would never use it, and don't understand the need for one. I mean, each track being a sideways channel isn't that hard to wrap your head around.dealwithit wrote:No.lightshy wrote:i've looked thru the features of t2 and haven't seen a anything about a mixer. am i the only one that thinks it needs a mixer?
