I inserted this down here so I wouldn't get my head bit off if it was posted above.
Anyway....I am baffled that people still use Commodore and Atari computers! I mean, hello? I guess if you have some ancient music software that you are used to and can't live without, yeah. But there's no support or peripherals (that I'm aware of) that will work with such old and slow technology....what's the attraction?
Way off topic, but...
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- KVRAF
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
The Atari ST's were really good at handling midi, and it has a grip of algo type midi applications that just don't really exist on any other platform... regarding the c64... I think most of the attraction to the c64 isn't in it's sequencing, it's that infamous SID chip sound that people want (probably a bit more attractive to those willing to put chip tune type stuff in their tracks).
I wish I still had my c64... it rocked. Poke,Peek... ahh!
I wish I still had my c64... it rocked. Poke,Peek... ahh!
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Some people just like the thrill of being able to push their technology. It's kind of like people who enjoy hot-rodding their cars, except in this case, it's "what can I get out of my Atari that will still be relevant and help me make music?"
I don't know for sure (not being one of those people), but I suspect that the fun for them is working within the limitations. I can relate to it in a way, because when I have limitations for writing poems (sonnet or haiku form spring to mind, the former being a very rigid form) I tend to accomplish better work than just 'free' poetry.
Greg
I don't know for sure (not being one of those people), but I suspect that the fun for them is working within the limitations. I can relate to it in a way, because when I have limitations for writing poems (sonnet or haiku form spring to mind, the former being a very rigid form) I tend to accomplish better work than just 'free' poetry.
Greg
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 367 posts since 29 Dec, 2004 from east coast, usa
Not sure exactly what that is....?probably a bit more attractive to those willing to put chip tune type stuff in their tracks
I've heard of Music Concrete...is there Music Asphalt?
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- KVRian
- 1321 posts since 26 Mar, 2004 from UK
ILS still uses an Atari ST and a sampler, that's pretty much most of his kit...see here. It's a matter of what you're comfortable using...I don't think it matters what platform you use, it's the end result that counts.
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- KVRAF
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
Chip Tune = blippy computer music.. that tends to use sounds from a paricular machine's sound chip set (for example, the SID on the c64). A lot of it made with Trackers... very LoFi game console type music that might very well be constructed much like any other song.trappist wrote:Not sure exactly what that is....?probably a bit more attractive to those willing to put chip tune type stuff in their tracks
Ya gotta enjoy the blips in order to see any value in working with some of this oldskool stuff. But that oldskool stuff truely is blippiness at it's best. This is what happens when you grow up on playing an Atari 2600 at all hours of the night for the earlier stages of your life. You start gettin' the blips man.. the blips! it's all about the blips!
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Moritz Morpheus MkIII Moritz Morpheus MkIII https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2011
- KVRian
- 668 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Vienna, Austria
I can just speak for myself, yes I am a modern musician with loads of hardware and software, old and new and I use it wildlessly all together..even if I turn my Atari(with a special matrix-sequencer running) on once a year(which is actually the truth) it still makes sense for me, because that´s what I have it for.
If instruments or computers can do something very special, there´s no need for me to get rid of it just because there´s something new that claims to be better than the original..
good stuff remains good stuff, otherwise it wouldn´t be good stuff!
another point may be that some peeps(I won´t exclude myself) simply have fun to mess around with ancient stuff...I mean aren´t the spec´s of an atari redicolous compared to an decent pc/mac but you can still make great tunes with it, and I like that fact.
another point may be that in our urban culture nowadays it´s somehow hip to use old stuff, isn´t it?
loads of other arguments spring to my mind but - you can call me nostalic, yes - the fact that I started on that computer gives me a warm feeling and I keep it 90% for remembering those times and as I said once a year I turn it on and have a lot of fun!
cheers!
If instruments or computers can do something very special, there´s no need for me to get rid of it just because there´s something new that claims to be better than the original..
good stuff remains good stuff, otherwise it wouldn´t be good stuff!
another point may be that some peeps(I won´t exclude myself) simply have fun to mess around with ancient stuff...I mean aren´t the spec´s of an atari redicolous compared to an decent pc/mac but you can still make great tunes with it, and I like that fact.
another point may be that in our urban culture nowadays it´s somehow hip to use old stuff, isn´t it?
loads of other arguments spring to my mind but - you can call me nostalic, yes - the fact that I started on that computer gives me a warm feeling and I keep it 90% for remembering those times and as I said once a year I turn it on and have a lot of fun!
cheers!
peace, 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 367 posts since 29 Dec, 2004 from east coast, usa
Yup.....been there, done that.This is what happens when you grow up on playing an Atari 2600
I've heard of Music Concrete...is there Music Asphalt?
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- KVRAF
- 25036 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
there's one thing that still fascinates me about ST:
my monitor is really really small and monochrome but nonetheless I fire up Notator and everything is so simple, clean and easy on the eyes...
- but I never managed to get that feeling from a ST emulator on pc
my monitor is really really small and monochrome but nonetheless I fire up Notator and everything is so simple, clean and easy on the eyes...
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 14 Oct, 2004 from Derbyshire U.K.
someone recently gave me an Atari ST with loads of discs.
Steinberg Pro 24 and loads of games.
I just dont know what to do with it!!
Are they still worth anything?
Steinberg Pro 24 and loads of games.
I just dont know what to do with it!!
Are they still worth anything?
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Moritz Morpheus MkIII Moritz Morpheus MkIII https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2011
- KVRian
- 668 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Vienna, Austria
man, try the games..you´ll laugh tears with some of them!! 
peace,
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 23 Feb, 2003 from Charlotte, VT
Tim Conrardy has all kinds of Atari and ST stuff and links on his site. He explains how to use it all in XP and it works fine, the programs are very mathematical and brilliant in spite of the wildly crude look.
Pythagorean perennialist.
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- R.I.P.
- 3833 posts since 8 Sep, 2003 from Santa Clara, CA, USA
gizmo wrote:Tim Conrardy has all kinds of Atari and ST stuff and links on his site. He explains how to use it all in XP and it works fine, the programs are very mathematical and brilliant in spite of the wildly crude look.
Yep..see my sig. You can use Steem and MidiYoke to control your softsynths..and its all free! Tunesmith and M are of particular interest as well as the Grid SeQ, whcih was based on a dream I had, and someone actually coded it!
TC