waveform editing?

[headquest]

Either: zoom in tight so you can see the audio spike clearly. select the clip and split it around the spike with the "/" key. Now select just the small problem clip, and drop the gain in its properties panel till it no longer leaps out. Once the level seems ok you can slip edit the starts and ends to the least audible points, and if needed, overlap both ends slightly and press "auto-crossfade".

I think this would work better if Tracktion could snap to zero-crossings, but in my experience it doesn't do this. Does anyone know of a way it can?

Without snapping to zero-crossings, any edit will likely introduce new transients, click or pops.

This is one good reason for investing in an external audio editor, or using a free/cheap one that can do this more effectively than Tracktion can.

[jens]

There is nothing in T1 that would be capable of editing out a pop or click. You would need an extenal editor with an auto click remover or a drawing tool. The free audacity can do that.

oh so wrong - read Platinumears' reply above yours - he is spot on - I think all those whinging for destructive wave-editing is due to people not having got their homework straight...

[IIRs]

Without snapping to zero-crossings, any edit will likely introduce new transients, click or pops.

Thats what the cross-fade is for: snapping to zeros doesn't guarantee a click-free join anyway..

<edit> You beat me to it Jens!

[headquest]

:
Thats what the cross-fade is for:

...understood...

snapping to zeros doesn't guarantee a click-free join anyway..

...but it gives you a much better chance of success

[jens]

...but it gives you a much better chance of success

that chance is 100% if you're doing it right anyway but it makes it easier...

[jens]

ay..

<edit> You beat me to it Jens!

and I've been a cheeky bastard again

[IIRs]

I can only speak from personal experience: the recent classical sessions I recorded in Tracktion required a fair bit of editing altogether: I even managed to retune a couple of short passing notes on the cello by splitting the clip around them and changing the playback speed in 10 cent increments!

The first edit I did I lined up by eye, pressed play.. and it was perfect, even without a cross-fade!

I literally got gasps from the musicians (both of whom were old pros who expected to be able to edit takes together).

Not all the edits were that easy, but not once during the recording of an entire 40 minute CD did I ever feel the need to snap to zero crossings.

Literally the only thing I missed in those sessions was a way to link audio clips non-destructively so I could "lock" my edits once they were done.

I'm not saying its never useful: I wouldn't consider looping multisamples these days without a Soundforge syle loop tuner with snapping options, but I've personally never missed it in a DAW.

[sean808080]

i used to use this audio editor and loved loved loved it..i'm not sure if its freeware or shareware but it's worth a looksee.


sean

doh! the name was in the subject which doesn't seem to show up. go figure:

Re: what about wave surgeon?


wave surgeon was the app i loved....

[headquest]

I can only speak from personal experience: the recent classical sessions I recorded in Tracktion required a fair bit of editing altogether: I even managed to retune a couple of short passing notes on the cello by splitting the clip around them and changing the playback speed in 10 cent increments!

The first edit I did I lined up by eye, pressed play.. and it was perfect, even without a cross-fade!

I literally got gasps from the musicians (both of whom were old pros who expected to be able to edit takes together).

Not all the edits were that easy, but not once during the recording of an entire 40 minute CD did I ever feel the need to snap to zero crossings.

Literally the only thing I missed in those sessions was a way to link audio clips non-destructively so I could "lock" my edits once they were done.

I'm not saying its never useful: I wouldn't consider looping multisamples these days without a Soundforge syle loop tuner with snapping options, but I've personally never missed it in a DAW.

That's cool and I've had some good results editing within Tracktion as well.

Don't get me wrong though - I'm not an advocate for wave editing within Tracktion.

I love using Audition .

...and I have found that although good wave-editing results are possible in Tracktion, they are easier in Audition.

Personally my microphone technique is also so crap that I need decent noise reduction tools as well, and that's where Audition truly becomes indispensible to me

[Lunch Money]

Is your 30 days of Audition finally up then LM?

Nope, 11 more days. I started off with the 30 day Acoustica trial before loading up the Audition trial.

I picked up a few extra shifts at work this week, so it's probably about time to give some people a call about getting an educational discount on Audition.

If all I needed was noise reduction and a few other decent editing tools, Acoustica was actually quite kick-ass. I like its feel and I thought the algos were great. However, for obvious reasons it can't compare to Audition.

Greg

[Lunch Money]

Personally my microphone technique is also so crap that I need decent noise reduction tools as well, and that's where Audition truly becomes indispensible to me

Exactly! That's why I'm looking at getting me some Audition.

Greg

[peter_neo]

How about goldwave?