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Filter FX on Clips....a revelation!(?)
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
I was remixing an old project exported from Sonar (all audio). I laid out the audio in Traktion and had quite a few insert FX on most tracks (EQ, Compressors etc.) and noticed that the CPU meter was riding pretty high when idle. So, I thought I'd try putting those "Filters" on individual clips and see what would happen. The CPU meter dropped to about half of what it originally was. So, am I correct in assuming that when clips are not currently being played, the fx filters they contain are not using CPU cyles? If I'm right and this is how it is, what an excellent feature! Very smart programming here.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
I'll take that as an "aye"!!!!platinumears wrote:
Yeeeehoooooooooooooo! Cool
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
One note on this technique:
Make sure that if you decide to drop filters right onto clips, that you allow the clips some 'tail' time.
Recently I composed a song for the KVR february contest, where I had some audio clips of a co-worker saying some things in North Vietnamese and in English.
I snipped the audio and made copies of these in semi-random locations throughout the length of the song, then had some fun dropping different fx onto the clips.
Because I snipped the stop times for the clips right when the speech stopped, some fx like delays and reverbs didn't sound right, because the 'tails' on these would immediately be cutoff when the clip end time was reached - unlike what it would sound like if I put the fx in the filter location on the track.
Well, now I know better, if I'm going to drop fx onto clips like this, I need to ensure the clip has some dead air at the end to allow the fx room to ring out the last bit of audio that was fed to it.
Hopefully this makes sense. If not, then you must try it out for yourself.
-Scott
Make sure that if you decide to drop filters right onto clips, that you allow the clips some 'tail' time.
Recently I composed a song for the KVR february contest, where I had some audio clips of a co-worker saying some things in North Vietnamese and in English.
I snipped the audio and made copies of these in semi-random locations throughout the length of the song, then had some fun dropping different fx onto the clips.
Because I snipped the stop times for the clips right when the speech stopped, some fx like delays and reverbs didn't sound right, because the 'tails' on these would immediately be cutoff when the clip end time was reached - unlike what it would sound like if I put the fx in the filter location on the track.
Well, now I know better, if I'm going to drop fx onto clips like this, I need to ensure the clip has some dead air at the end to allow the fx room to ring out the last bit of audio that was fed to it.
Hopefully this makes sense. If not, then you must try it out for yourself.
-Scott
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
rockstar_not wrote:One note on this technique:
Make sure that if you decide to drop filters right onto clips, that you allow the clips some 'tail' time.
Recently I composed a song for the KVR february contest, where I had some audio clips of a co-worker saying some things in North Vietnamese and in English.
I snipped the audio and made copies of these in semi-random locations throughout the length of the song, then had some fun dropping different fx onto the clips.
Because I snipped the stop times for the clips right when the speech stopped, some fx like delays and reverbs didn't sound right, because the 'tails' on these would immediately be cutoff when the clip end time was reached - unlike what it would sound like if I put the fx in the filter location on the track.
Well, now I know better, if I'm going to drop fx onto clips like this, I need to ensure the clip has some dead air at the end to allow the fx room to ring out the last bit of audio that was fed to it.
Hopefully this makes sense. If not, then you must try it out for yourself.
-Scott
I ran into the same thing using delay on some short voc clips. This would be a case where being able to create a blank audio clip and merging it with another would be very helpfull (to allow for verb/delay tails). Or maybe a simple edit command to add silence to the end of a clip? I wonder if T2 will have something like this?
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
Exactly! You can easily get your cpu cycles back by muting a track too. Unlike CubaseJoMal wrote: So, am I correct in assuming that when clips are not currently being played, the fx filters they contain are not using CPU cyles? If I'm right and this is how it is, what an excellent feature! Very smart programming here.![]()
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
AD80 wrote: Exactly! You can easily get your cpu cycles back by muting a track too. Unlike Cubase. Tracktion's just dope like that. Very cool.
...tip top thinking, RMS.
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
I agree. This is one of the key unique features to Tracktion. Does any other host even have something like this? I don't think so, but then again, I don't use any other host, so I wouldn't know.
It's amazing how much power is already in T1 below the surface. Makes me even more excited about T2, having the chance to find more goodies!
Koolkeys
It's amazing how much power is already in T1 below the surface. Makes me even more excited about T2, having the chance to find more goodies!
Koolkeys
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
AFAIK, the only other app that does this (FX per clips) is Samplitude but otherwise, it's interface is NOwhere near Tracktion's smooth and pliable UI. I used to use Samplitude for mastering but now it's gonna be Tracktion all the way baby! In a way, I feel sorry for those who have never used another recording host besides Tracktion because they will never know what they aren't missing! To me Tracktion feels like a pair of those elastic form-fitting driving gloves that feel so good on your hands. Everything else out there is like a pair of clumsy mittens.
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