KVR Audio

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:06 pm

Thanks Simon. I didn't mean to insult your work in any way!

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:18 pm

I feel like I have made all kinds of sounds with Kaleidoscope but the majority of them havn't sounded drone like at all, mainly because I keep the tempo up higher and typically go for more rhythmic / melodic type images.

Kaleidoscope can sound many many different ways only using white noise, once get start feeding it your own input or making your own images the sky is the limit.

I see what you are saying about it maybe having a signature sound using extremely high feedback settings but that's only a tiny fraction of the sounds possible. Try to change up the tempo, experiment with different rhythmic and melodic patterns and tunings, try mixing up your modulation modes and utilizing both input and output modulation, lower your feedback settings and play with string resonater dampening settings. I have really good luck with a high EQ value on the lowpass 12db filter and good luck at all EQ settings on the bandpass. Just some suggestions.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:25 pm

Drone may not be the right word. Ambient, maybe. Signature sound, definitely. I guess that shouldn't be a surprise, as it always sounds like a bunch of resonators being forced into a scale. I'm not saying I dislike that sound, not at all. I'm just questioning the cost for that one type of sound.

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:30 pm

That description makes more sense to me. Though remember you can also use it to recreate all sorts of effects with external sound input where you wouldn't be able to recognize the signature sound easily vs white noise patches.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:32 pm

Okay, FINE. I'll buy it. You twisted my arm.

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:07 am

I may try to make a dance track with only Kaleidoscope for the synth/bass parts. The question is should I try and do it with or without external effects... I am thinking with but without presents its own interesting challenge.

I think Andrew would do a much better job than I would at that though

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:22 am

Voice303 wrote:I may try to make a dance track with only Kaleidoscope for the synth/bass parts. The question is should I try and do it with or without external effects... I am thinking with but without presents its own interesting challenge.

I think Andrew would do a much better job than I would at that though

Maybe some tempo synced side-chain gating would be a good start...just tossing that out there...

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:37 am

deastman wrote:Thanks Simon. I didn't mean to insult your work in any way!

No worries

I just think you did some selective listening here when reading your description of that one smeary drone sound. KS is either an effect or a synthesizer, as it can create sound on it's own without any external input. Depending on how the resonators resonate with the input source (or not), the sound of KS can totally vary within the scope of being a resonator or a granular delay (FIR-mode) of course.

Granular synthesis sounds like granular synthesis, a vocoder sounds like a vocoder, subtractive synthesis sounds like subtractive synthesis, FM sounds like FM, the pope sounds like the pope.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:08 am

I guess I was looking for an effect that would make a supersaw sound like the pope. But all I ended up with was 909 kick drums that sounded like papal resonators.

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:17 am

Yes, but does a resonator s£€t in the woods?

jtenney · Post by **jtenney** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:18 am

Papal Resonators! LMAO!!!

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:29 am

deastman: I approve of you gear list

So yeah, I think I am going to need to use alot of external audio input for the dance track.I need to get a more "compact" sound than I seem to be able to get only using white noise as an input source.

I think Kaleidoscope will mainly be useful making crazy rhytmic patches and as a creative effect / coloring tool for dance stuff, which is perfectly fine. Someone feel free to prove me wrong

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:49 am

I'll just use KS to do my washing up, and maybe impress some customers.

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:13 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:I'll just use KS to do my washing up, and maybe impress some customers.

Washing up? Enlighten me

jtenney · Post by **jtenney** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:04 am

Maaan, KS is hypnotic! I have just barely scratched the surface, very barely, and already I feel like I'm on another planet of sound! Here is an example of a sketchy effort:

https://soundcloud.com/jtenney/kaleidoscope-1

This brass-heavy orchestral music is actually a field of frogs, recorded in Poland, running through a waveform I made of a turkey gobbling. Amazing!!

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