Tone2 I2 vs Trueno Analog

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braj wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
braj wrote:But it does make the point that there are plenty of great software options, free and commercial, that make this dongle idea a potentially nice niche product and not a game changer.
I like the idea of a full featured poly analog synth the size of a wallet+... great for travel!
Yeah, like I said, niche product, but this guy repeatedly says it will put softsynths out of business, that VST developers are exploiting us all, that users that disagree with him are selling synths etc :hihi:
He clearly needs a time out... :hihi:

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chk071 wrote:TBH, like has been said before in this thread, i think i'd rather go for something like the Behringer D, and spend a little more money, to get some hands on control, if i'd really be "on the market" for a analog synth (which i'm not sure i am). Can only speak for myself, but, IF a hardware synth, then surely not one which i have to control via a VST. There's no benefit i'd see then, apart from maybe 5% better sound.
Sure... different people want different things...

The Behringer D is big (comparatively), needs power and does not integrate as a plugin in the DAW.

The other benefit is the CPU use. Be very cool to have a poly analog so tiny.

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Korg Minilogue (and others) use the same sort of digital VCO control... it allows the use of less expensive analog circuitry and compensating the response as needed. e.g. You can use the computer to sweep the VCO response and create a lookup table to have the tweaked value needed to get the desired pitch. Does away with more expensive and complex analog circuitry so cheaper...


"Seems interesting... I appreciate a fresh concept!
One funny thing... "Trueno has three highly stable digitally controlled VCOs with automatic tuning"
Uh... if it is digitally controlled, it is not a VCO "

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great idea
sounds pretty good from the limited demos available.
Cheap! Great!
but quite stupid shape. For the Macbook users, it will make the other port unusable.
Would have been so much smarter to have it built with a very short extension cable, not only to be able to lower profile, but to be less open to mishaps (or perhaps easier fixable) if it gets knocked.

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wagtunes wrote:
braj wrote:Someone please point me to a free synth that sounds as good as Repro-1 and 5, or Diva.
Ask Layzer. He seems to know what they are.

Do you think he would even use a i7 Laptop capable of running Repro-5 if someone just gave it to him?
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V0RT3X wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
braj wrote:Someone please point me to a free synth that sounds as good as Repro-1 and 5, or Diva.
Ask Layzer. He seems to know what they are.

Do you think he would even use a i7 Laptop capable of running Repro-5 if someone just gave it to him?
Who is "he?" the OP? btw I'll take one, thank you :D
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braj wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
braj wrote:Someone please point me to a free synth that sounds as good as Repro-1 and 5, or Diva.
Ask Layzer. He seems to know what they are.

Do you think he would even use a i7 Laptop capable of running Repro-5 if someone just gave it to him?
Who is "he?" the OP? btw I'll take one, thank you :D
Layzer is our resident "Synth1 can make all the sounds that Omnisphere can make for free" expert. He believes free synths are just as good, if not better, than all the paid synths and. as he calls it, bloatware.

The funny thing is, if you check his signature, he has all these "paid for" hardware synths.

So you kind of have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

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Yeah, same with the OP, he thinks software developers are nefarious, but hardware developers have come to rescue us all from zombies. Or something.
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chk071 wrote:One might add though that that is largely due to the amount of Windows 7 installations in countries like China and India...
I was going to throw some Steam statistics out there as a counter, and then I noticed that 64% of Steam users have Chinese as their OS language :o

So anyway, I'm at least confident saying Windows 7 is still popular among the would-be target market for this device (whether it's #1 or not).


Another disadvantage this has that software doesn't: you can't demo it. Given potential compatibility problems, that seems like a big flaw.

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@OP, apologies for assuming in your opening post that you were representing the company (hence my comment about the links).
However, I remain unconvinced by this product's supposed appeal (beyond that of dozens of other existing synths), for reasons previously expressed by myself and others on these pages.
Also this is not 'finally' REAL ANALOG, when I can easily perform with my 1974 Roland hardware synth. It is a gamble by the company which at £140 may, or may not, see them make inroads in a heavily saturated market. Time will tell.

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Real Analogue.... on a USB stick....erm.... :lol:

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AnX wrote:Real Analogue.... on a USB stick....erm.... :lol:
Yep I'm far from an expert but it sounds like complete marketing lie, isn't it?

I like the sound, though

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AnX wrote:Real Analogue.... on a USB stick....erm.... :lol:
Image :scared:
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Comes down to....

How good does it sound
How much latency is introduced
Does it aggregate well

Need a good unbiased review, surely someone must have beta tested this? Nothing on YouTube?
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AnX wrote:Real Analogue.... on a USB stick....erm.... :lol:
It's possible with surface-mount tech and high level of integration in ICs.

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