JUNO-6 done, which Roland Synth should I model next? Jupiter-8?

[Uncle E]

is a raw, characterful "warts and all" Jupiter something you'd want

Yes. I own and like J-8, but it's cleaner than the Jupiter-8 I used.

That said, Jupiter-6 gets my vote.

[Morphoice]

I won't pretend this needs much of a defense. EightySix was my JUNO-6 plugin, a six voice synthesizer from the 80s. The Jupiter-8 is an eight-voice synthesizer and from the eighties too, so it became EightyEight, not 88. Besides, every piano has 88 keys, and countless instruments use that number in their name for exactly that reason. It's a fitting name for an 80s eight-voice synth, full stop. And at the end of the day it's a number, a unit of counting. We can't very well retire those from everyday use because someone, somewhere, decided to read something into them.

As a German, I'll just say the connection being suggested here isn't one I've never ever encountered in daily life. And we probably grow up with arguably the strictest education and laws on that history anywhere. Reading it into a music plugin's model number is a real stretch. There's no hidden meaning. It's a synth. If anything, the connection says more about where the mind that reached for it went than about a synthesizer or music software's model number.

[Morphoice]

I apologize for bringing it up, it was just an honest shocked reaction to seeing it on the synth at launch. I saw that it was brought to the dev's attention, and being that the dev is from where they are from, and it is ILLEGAL to represent that viewpoint there, a namechange was in order. It wasn't. It is what it is.

I expressed my viewpoint that this is maybe not great.

Moving on.

Just to set the record straight for anyone reading: the plugin was never named with the number at all, it's the word "EightyEight," spelled out, following directly from my JUNO-6 plugin "EightySix." Beyond that, the number itself isn't illegal or banned in Germany regardless. What's banned is the use of actual Nazi symbols and slogans in a genuinely extremist context, which a synth plugin obviously isn't. So there was never an issue here.

[Bunny_boy]

[audiojunkie]

Can we now get back to the actual plugin? I’m looking forward to it (in native Linux format, of course! ).

[whassup]

Can we now get back to the actual plugin? I’m looking forward to it (in native Linux format, of course! ).

Right!
did anybody play it already?
I dind't find a Windows version on Gumroad.

EDIT: Win version is on Gumroad now.
It is a very early version, yes.

[Morphoice]

I apologize for bringing it up, it was just an honest shocked reaction to seeing it on the synth at launch. I saw that it was brought to the dev's attention, and being that the dev is from where they are from, and it is ILLEGAL to represent that viewpoint there, a namechange was in order. It wasn't. It is what it is.

I expressed my viewpoint that this is maybe not great.

Moving on.

No need to apologize, you did a nice thing by pointing it out even though you likely knew people here were going to be wieners about it.

The developer's fine with it sharing that number, but at least now they know and were able to make an educated choice. If it were me, I would definitely want to know.

Let me make this once again absolutely clear, since it keeps getting blurred. A number is just a number, I've no issue with 88 as a quantity any more than 14 or 42; numbers are neutral. What I reject is people abusing it as shorthand for something vile, and others then tarring anything named 88 with the same brush. But that's beside the point entirely, because my plugin isn't named a number at all, it's named the stylized word "EightyEight," following straight from "EightySix." So there are three different things here that keep getting mashed into one: a neutral number, a misuse I want nothing to do with, and my plugin's name, which connects only to the first. That's the whole picture, and that's me done on it before it starts getting annoying.

Anyway, I'd love to actually steer this back to the plugin itself, which is the whole reason I posted. If anyone's had a chance to load it up, I'd really value some impressions on the sound, especially the voice card oscillators and that worn, drifty character, since that's the part I've put the most into and the thing that sets it apart.

[concealed identity]

I apologize for bringing it up, it was just an honest shocked reaction to seeing it on the synth at launch. I saw that it was brought to the dev's attention, and being that the dev is from where they are from, and it is ILLEGAL to represent that viewpoint there, a namechange was in order. It wasn't. It is what it is.

I expressed my viewpoint that this is maybe not great.

Moving on.

No need to apologize, you did a nice thing by pointing it out even though you likely knew people here were going to be wieners about it.

The developer's fine with it sharing that number, but at least now they know and were able to make an educated choice. If it were me, I would definitely want to know.

Let me make this once again absolutely clear, since it keeps getting blurred. A number is just a number, I've no issue with 88 as a quantity any more than 14 or 42; numbers are neutral. What I reject is people abusing it as shorthand for something vile. But that's beside the point entirely, because my plugin isn't named a number at all, it's named the stylized word "EightyEight," following straight from "EightySix." So there are three different things here that keep getting mashed into one: a neutral number, a misuse I want nothing to do with, and my plugin's name, which connects only to the first. That's the whole picture, and that's me done on it before it starts getting annoying.

There's really only one thing here: a number. It really, REALLY doesn't matter if it's written "88" or "EightyEight". The number is indeed misused, and as I said, it's better that you know that and are fine sharing the number than not knowing and not being fine with it.

Nobody's suggesting your synth has anything to do with that, they're just trying to inform you since it's reasonable to assume that there are a lot of people that might want to change the name to avoid any misunderstanding. There's nothing to defend, you've stated that it's not relevant to you and that's that.

[audiojunkie]

Funny that some are demanding you 86 the 88...
And I get the feeling it's from the 420 mob not realizing that number was once mostly a racist term too!
I have no problem with what you call them here and am watching the evolution of the plugins on their own merits. Keep going and know there are more of us than them.

Ha, "86 the 88" made me laugh. Appreciate this a lot! That's exactly the spirit I was hoping to get back to: judging the plugins on what they sound like. Thanks for watching the work and for the encouragement, it genuinely helps. More to come, and I hope the sound earns its keep with you.

Exactly! The sound is what matters.