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Howard · Post by **Howard** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:13 am

mrj1nx wrote:Im envisioning an even bigger patch grid in the middle with maybe 6 columns.. Too much?

Yes - I think 4 is plenty, and 6 would just be a waste of space and invite sloppy programming (BTW I rarely need more than 2).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:20 am

But it would be nice to be able to have more modules in a pane, so that Diva filters in ZHZ can have individual panes, like VCF and XMF do?

In fact, this would be a great Z2 update IMHO. Especially if ZHZ won't happen for Z3...

mrj1nx · Post by **mrj1nx** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:10 am

Howard wrote:
mrj1nx wrote:Im envisioning an even bigger patch grid in the middle with maybe 6 columns.. Too much?
Yes - I think 4 is plenty, and 6 would just be a waste of space and invite sloppy programming (BTW I rarely need more than 2).

Yeah I guess it could just be bloat. It depends on what other options there are for layering sounds. I mean in this day and age when more and more daw's have capabilities for layering and complex patches, it's starting to blur a bit what the actual plugin should do vs what it should rely on the daw to do. Still, to be able to really save a patch I guess the plugin needs to be as much of a swiss army knife as possible, as in, having all the fx, all filter types, layering etc... I guess thats where these new hybrid things like Rob Papen Prisma and that kiloHertz Multipass effect unit come in. In some ways one could argue that those two would be unessecary, but just to be able to easily save settings I guess they are needed.

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:49 am

zethus909 wrote:
zethus909 wrote:
Howard wrote:Ah... I thought you meant MIDI-learn within Zebra
I do like the way you set up the performance knobs though thats genius. Because this way you can assign all the xy to the macro knobs in ableton...and then every different patch you make in zebra you have different performance functions for each xy knob...so you change patches in zebra, but the control is always the same in ableton...and you just have to choose how you want to patch up the performance knobs in zebra...

Exactly. This works really well, and you can also control parameters via XY that you cannot configure in Live or MIDI map in Zebra. Now you can control these via a controller like Push. Though I do save each rack with each macro knob uniquely labeled in Live so I know what I'm tweaking from Push.

This is another reason why I would love to have Zebra's XY setup with Bazille, for example. And whether it is loaded in Live or not, it is still very useful.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:36 pm

EvilDragon wrote:But it would be nice to be able to have more modules in a pane, so that Diva filters in ZHZ can have individual panes, like VCF and XMF do?

In fact, this would be a great Z2 update IMHO. Especially if ZHZ won't happen for Z3...

Yep, I guess the 32 limit is outdated.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:32 pm

Is it a lot of work to up that limit?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:29 pm

EvilDragon wrote:

Is it a lot of work to up that limit?

What limit are you talking about?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:31 pm

The limit that one pane with modules (left and right side of Zebra) can contain only up to 32 modules. Which is why in Zebra HZ, Diva filters were merged into one module, which is inconsistent with how VCF and XMF modules are (you have individual modules for VCF/XMF 1-4, whereas for Diva filters you have LPF 1-4 and HPF 1-4 in two modules (as opposed to

IIRC).

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:14 am

EvilDragon wrote:The limit that one pane with modules (left and right side of Zebra) can contain only up to 32 modules. Which is why in Zebra HZ, Diva filters were merged into one module, which is inconsistent with how VCF and XMF modules are (you have individual modules for VCF/XMF 1-4, whereas for Diva filters you have LPF 1-4 and HPF 1-4 in two modules (as opposed to IIRC).

Ahh... thanks for the info... never knew about that. I doubt I have ever come close to hitting that limit.

ddeez · Post by **ddeez** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:05 am

Hey Urs longtime faithful customer here. Just wondering how far we are away from a z3 beta or something of the like coming out. Thanks. I bought zhz

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:45 pm

ddeez wrote:Hey Urs longtime faithful customer here. Just wondering how far we are away from a z3 beta or something of the like coming out. Thanks. I bought zhz

i think it's not any time soon..

he talks about timeline of it somewhere in this thread.. maybe read back a couple pages.. it's far enough away that, for me, it doesn't make sense to think about it... so i forgot the details.

still so much to do in zebra 2 anyways.

aaron aardvark · Post by **aaron aardvark** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:43 am

Earlier Urs stated he hopes that Z3 will come out this year, but not a promise.

zethus909 · Post by **zethus909** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:28 pm

Another thing that you cant do but it would be nice, is in zebrify......right now you cant map any of the envelope follower knobs into ableton....yes you can do the midi learn...but be good to be able to map directly to Push.....the normal way...

i mean the knobs like pitch detector, transient, sense etc.....be able to map those to XY knobs

Taurus · Post by **Taurus** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:17 pm

The first post about zebra3 is four years old. I don't think we can get it this year. Unfortunately uhe have another baby in the pipeline, I mean RePro-1. I'm bored about another vintage-emulation.

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:36 pm

Taurus wrote:The first post about zebra3 is four years old. I don't think we can get it this year. Unfortunately uhe have another baby in the pipeline, I mean RePro-1. I'm bored about another vintage-emulation.

RePro-1 is part of Zebra3 development..

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