That's how Zebra 1.5 did it, and the gap between expectation and reality was vast.GruvSyco wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:57 amSo, I’m sitting on the couch watching Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and an idea pops into my head:Urs wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:04 pm Unfortunately there's no good way to bend Zebra's concept into something that allows freely routable feedback between modules. The routing is always column by column, row by row in Zebra's Grid.
Feedback module is a forced pair (linked… both on or off) or one module with two locations. Both can pass through audio. Feedback 1 (in) has a level (from Feedback 1 (out)) and a mod source (because everything needs modulation). Feedback 1 (out) is basically just two identical signals, the pass thru and the feedback loop. Overly simplified, with no idea of coding.
Anyways… I won’t go on on this suggestion. There are better minds at work here than mine.
Zebra 3 and Zebra Legacy
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- u-he
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- KVRian
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SUMU?dayjob wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:41 am ...
SUMU is due soon. Maybe it will check some of those boxes
Feel the energy...
https://youtube.com/hienergymusic/
https://youtube.com/hienergymusic/
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
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should be out next month... per a comment from the developer in his forum at his site.
https://madronalabs.com/products/sumu?locale=us
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzolIyTB ... BiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzMplp0R ... BiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyuzSlIx ... BiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxoFTcix ... BiNWFlZA==
https://madronalabs.com/topics/8984-vut ... ?locale=us
companion app for SUMU:
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- KVRAF
- 2673 posts since 18 Mar, 2006 from The Void
It will be interesting to see how Sumu compares to Harmor.
Back on u-he and Zebra 3... Perhaps the grid could be replaced with a full 'modular' (patcher) component instead, greatly increasing routuing flexibility, and truly allowing CPU-blowing patches
I realise this would kill the simple 'readability' of patches, but it also feels like the next evolution.
... Zebra 4 maybe ?
Back on u-he and Zebra 3... Perhaps the grid could be replaced with a full 'modular' (patcher) component instead, greatly increasing routuing flexibility, and truly allowing CPU-blowing patches
I realise this would kill the simple 'readability' of patches, but it also feels like the next evolution.
... Zebra 4 maybe ?
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- KVRian
- 1245 posts since 27 Nov, 2014
Hi, Urs!
Do you plan to implement something as sequencer from modular world with quantizer and randomization for example or will it be just simple arp?
Do you plan to implement something as sequencer from modular world with quantizer and randomization for example or will it be just simple arp?
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- u-he
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Probably another synth thenkoalaboy wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:45 am It will be interesting to see how Sumu compares to Harmor.
Back on u-he and Zebra 3... Perhaps the grid could be replaced with a full 'modular' (patcher) component instead, greatly increasing routuing flexibility, and truly allowing CPU-blowing patches
I realise this would kill the simple 'readability' of patches, but it also feels like the next evolution.
... Zebra 4 maybe ?
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- u-he
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- KVRAF
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- KVRist
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I’m hoping Kevin Schroeder will make a ton of stock presets for Zebra 3 
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- KVRist
- 53 posts since 30 Mar, 2005 from Sweden
Did I hear "Berlin Modular"?Urs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:59 amProbably another synth thenkoalaboy wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:45 am It will be interesting to see how Sumu compares to Harmor.
Back on u-he and Zebra 3... Perhaps the grid could be replaced with a full 'modular' (patcher) component instead, greatly increasing routuing flexibility, and truly allowing CPU-blowing patches
I realise this would kill the simple 'readability' of patches, but it also feels like the next evolution.
... Zebra 4 maybe ?
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- u-he
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10235 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
Not only no but NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.koalaboy wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:45 am It will be interesting to see how Sumu compares to Harmor.
Back on u-he and Zebra 3... Perhaps the grid could be replaced with a full 'modular' (patcher) component instead, greatly increasing routuing flexibility, and truly allowing CPU-blowing patches
I realise this would kill the simple 'readability' of patches, but it also feels like the next evolution.
... Zebra 4 maybe ?
and furthermore NO!!!!#!#!#@!
If you want full modular patcher with cables and crap there is already Bazille.
Zebra is a great system for modular-like approach but without the cables and confusion.
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- KVRAF
- 2673 posts since 18 Mar, 2006 from The Void
Was that a maybe ?VitaminD wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:47 pm Not only no but NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
and furthermore NO!!!!#!#!#@!
I understand your point. I'm just wishing we had more patchbays than grids, these days.
Grids remind me of spreadsheets.
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10235 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
koalaboy wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:09 pmWas that a maybe ?VitaminD wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:47 pm Not only no but NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
and furthermore NO!!!!#!#!#@!
I understand your point. I'm just wishing we had more patchbays than grids, these days.
Grids remind me of spreadsheets.
Cables give me stress. A real psychological issue. My brain tries to map all the routings and since there are so many it cannot.. which freaks me out. Just a cable mess. I really really don't want to see cables. Bazille is the only u-he product I don't have as a result.