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thanks Urs, works fine on both my Cubase mac and my Nuendo PC now.
rsp
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Can you maybe give a quick overview about the deay time beat section?

From the manual, I do understand that the middle position means 4/16 - or 1/4th - or 4.0 in the GUI for that matter.

That would mean (at 120bpm):
0 = off (no delay)
1 = 1/16
2 = 1/8
3 = 1/8 (dot)
4 = 1/4th
5 = ?
6 = 1/4 (dot)
7 = ?
8 = 1/2


With tests in Cubase, this seems to be correct.


AND - probably a bug:
Have higher host speed (example 150bpm) and both 7 and 8 as delay setting doesn't work anymore.
Last edited by Compyfox on Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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zvenx wrote:thanks Urs, works fine on both my Cubase mac and my Nuendo PC now.
rsp
Great! That's a giant step forward then 8)

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I know it's too early to ask for additional features but I'm putting this down here to remind myself so that I can remind you guys in a year or two. :hihi:

Feature Request: A custom Rec and Repro head EQ. Instead of ready made curves, how about a simple 3 or 4 band EQ with shelves and parametric EQs? :D

Cheers! Loving the plugin!
bManic
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bmanic wrote:Feature Request: A custom Rec and Repro head EQ. Instead of ready made curves, how about a simple 3 or 4 band EQ with shelves and parametric EQs? :D
Definitely +1
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Compyfox wrote:Can you maybe give a quick overview about the deay time beat section?
Why so complicated?

The units are 1/16th notes, hence

0 = next to no delay
0.5 = half a sixteenth = 1/32th note
1 = 1/16th
1.5 = dotted 1/16th
2 = 2 x 1/16th = 1/8th
3 = 3 x 1/16th = dotted 1/8th
4 = 4 x 1/16th = quarter note

and so on, just like what you found.

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that's what I would have thought too, but then the manual speaks about the tape speed influencing delay time....... or is it that you just get higher values of integers (1/16ths) with different tape speeds?
I ask myself as I go to check..

rsp
sound sculptist

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Ok, no crashes or deadlocks... Seems you fixed it for Cubase ;)

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Urs wrote: The units are 1/16th notes, hence

0 = next to no delay
0.5 = half a sixteenth = 1/32th note
1 = 1/16th
1.5 = dotted 1/16th
2 = 2 x 1/16th = 1/8th
3 = 3 x 1/16th = dotted 1/8th
4 = 4 x 1/16th = quarter note
No triplets?

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Is it possible to turn off saturation/EQ curves and use JUST the tape compression?

I have not had the chance to demo Satin yet, but i would love to think a lo-fi tape option would be available. I would use that as much as a great sounding mastering tape... big Boards Of Canada fan :)

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Urs wrote:
Compyfox wrote:Can you maybe give a quick overview about the deay time beat section?
Why so complicated?

The units are 1/16th notes, hence

0 = next to no delay
0.5 = half a sixteenth = 1/32th note
1 = 1/16th
1.5 = dotted 1/16th
2 = 2 x 1/16th = 1/8th
3 = 3 x 1/16th = dotted 1/8th
4 = 4 x 1/16th = quarter note

and so on, just like what you found.
Hum, I can't see myself remembering that in use.

Sure, I use my ears, but having values like "1/8, 1/8d, 1/8t" would be way better !

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zvenx wrote:that's what I would have thought too, but then the manual speaks about the tape speed influencing delay time....... or is it that you just get higher values of integers (1/16ths) with different tape speeds?
I ask myself as I go to check..

rsp
We (well, I) have decided that in host sync mode the tape speed would not change the delay times. So in host sync the tape head positions are "locked" to multiples of 1/16th, while in non-synced mode they're locked in inches, hence affected by tape speed.

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David Else wrote:Is it possible to turn off saturation/EQ curves and use JUST the tape compression?
You can turn EQ curves off, but you can't omitt saturation.

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K-Slash wrote:Sure, I use my ears, but having values like "1/8, 1/8d, 1/8t" would be way better !
Hmmm, maybe we can print them onto the sliders... might be a job for the skin designers...

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Frantz wrote:
Urs wrote: The units are 1/16th notes, hence

0 = next to no delay
0.5 = half a sixteenth = 1/32th note
1 = 1/16th
1.5 = dotted 1/16th
2 = 2 x 1/16th = 1/8th
3 = 3 x 1/16th = dotted 1/8th
4 = 4 x 1/16th = quarter note
No triplets?
Yes, triplets are possible too. Any kind of swing factor is.

I think 5.33 would be a quarter triplet, 2.67 an eigth triplet (I have a long history of confusing those though).

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