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origwt wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:So I open my Bank I had saved yesterday after fixing permissions only to find that all the presets are gone and only one is left - named Init1, which was the one I save several days ago. Something is seriously wrong ith the browser/bank/save-system it seems. So all those sound are now lost, I have some raw AU presets but the hours in between are lost, argggghhh.
sorry about that.
but saving the bank is the most usual thing.
that works for sure.
and the presets should also be in your DAW projects.
I only have one DAW project up to now which is for creating new presets...so of course they are not in there.

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origwt wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:So I open my Bank I had saved yesterday after fixing permissions only to find that all the presets are gone and only one is left - named Init1, which was the one I save several days ago. Something is seriously wrong ith the browser/bank/save-system it seems. So all those sound are now lost, I have some raw AU presets but the hours in between are lost, argggghhh.
sorry about that.
but saving the bank is the most usual thing.
that works for sure.
and the presets should also be in your DAW projects.
the problem could be that the DAW is loading another bank as you might think.
so when you open an old DAW project and then save the bank, it will overwrite the newer version.

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origwt wrote:
origwt wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:So I open my Bank I had saved yesterday after fixing permissions only to find that all the presets are gone and only one is left - named Init1, which was the one I save several days ago. Something is seriously wrong ith the browser/bank/save-system it seems. So all those sound are now lost, I have some raw AU presets but the hours in between are lost, argggghhh.
sorry about that.
but saving the bank is the most usual thing.
that works for sure.
and the presets should also be in your DAW projects.
the problem could be that the DAW is loading another bank as you might think.
so when you open an old DAW project and then save the bank, it will overwrite the newer version.
its better to save the presets you want to collect in a TARGET bank.
so that the DAW cannot destroy your collection bank.

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origwt wrote:
origwt wrote:
origwt wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:So I open my Bank I had saved yesterday after fixing permissions only to find that all the presets are gone and only one is left - named Init1, which was the one I save several days ago. Something is seriously wrong ith the browser/bank/save-system it seems. So all those sound are now lost, I have some raw AU presets but the hours in between are lost, argggghhh.
sorry about that.
but saving the bank is the most usual thing.
that works for sure.
and the presets should also be in your DAW projects.
the problem could be that the DAW is loading another bank as you might think.
so when you open an old DAW project and then save the bank, it will overwrite the newer version.
its better to save the presets you want to collect in a TARGET bank.
so that the DAW cannot destroy your collection bank.
But that's what I did, my target bank was Simon's Bank which is now empty and was fillted with about 15 presets last night.

When setting polyphony in Global to e.g. 14, then editing things on the main page and coming back, polyphony is set to 8 again. This really feels like a public Beta release, but I still love it.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
origwt wrote:
origwt wrote:
origwt wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:So I open my Bank I had saved yesterday after fixing permissions only to find that all the presets are gone and only one is left - named Init1, which was the one I save several days ago. Something is seriously wrong ith the browser/bank/save-system it seems. So all those sound are now lost, I have some raw AU presets but the hours in between are lost, argggghhh.
sorry about that.
but saving the bank is the most usual thing.
that works for sure.
and the presets should also be in your DAW projects.
the problem could be that the DAW is loading another bank as you might think.
so when you open an old DAW project and then save the bank, it will overwrite the newer version.
its better to save the presets you want to collect in a TARGET bank.
so that the DAW cannot destroy your collection bank.
But that's what I did, my target bank was Simon's Bank which is now empty and was fillted with about 15 presets last night.

When setting polyphony in Global to e.g. 14, then editing things on the main page and coming back, polyphony is set to 8 again. This really feels like a public Beta release, but I still love it.
And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
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Sampleconstruct wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
origwt wrote:
origwt wrote:
origwt wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:So I open my Bank I had saved yesterday after fixing permissions only to find that all the presets are gone and only one is left - named Init1, which was the one I save several days ago. Something is seriously wrong ith the browser/bank/save-system it seems. So all those sound are now lost, I have some raw AU presets but the hours in between are lost, argggghhh.
sorry about that.
but saving the bank is the most usual thing.
that works for sure.
and the presets should also be in your DAW projects.
the problem could be that the DAW is loading another bank as you might think.
so when you open an old DAW project and then save the bank, it will overwrite the newer version.
its better to save the presets you want to collect in a TARGET bank.
so that the DAW cannot destroy your collection bank.
But that's what I did, my target bank was Simon's Bank which is now empty and was fillted with about 15 presets last night.

When setting polyphony in Global to e.g. 14, then editing things on the main page and coming back, polyphony is set to 8 again. This really feels like a public Beta release, but I still love it.
And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png

when you click the SAVE BANK button on the browser page, the fxp bank is updated !
that has nothing to do with the aupresets.

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Once again:
DAW open with target bank:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.13.16.png
then close DAW, reload project, open Phonem and this:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.14.36.png
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origwt wrote:

when you click the SAVE BANK button on the browser page, the fxp bank is updated !
that has nothing to do with the aupresets.
I understood that, but the issue persists, see my last post.

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Sampleconstruct wrote: And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
And what about that FXB file? Is it empty, or does it contain the presets you did? Can it be that you are saving the bank as FXB, even if you are using AU version of the instrument?

I ask this because you mentionted a TARGET "bank" and there is no such thing as AU "bank", just individual preset files. Sorry if I am stating the obvious... :borg:

EDIT: I see that someone already mentioned this :shrug:
Last edited by fmr on Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
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fmr wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
And what about that FXB file? Is it empty, or does it contain the presets you did? Can it be that you are saving the bank as FXB, even if you are using AU version of the instrument?

I ask this because you mentiontied a TARGET "bank" and there is no such thing as AU "bank", just individual preset files. Sorry if I am stating the obvious... :borg:
the FXB is a closed format, I can't see what's in it. Maybe with a text editor, I'll try.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
fmr wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
And what about that FXB file? Is it empty, or does it contain the presets you did? Can it be that you are saving the bank as FXB, even if you are using AU version of the instrument?

I ask this because you mentiontied a TARGET "bank" and there is no such thing as AU "bank", just individual preset files. Sorry if I am stating the obvious... :borg:
the FXB is a closed format, I can't see what's in it. Maybe with a text editor, I'll try.
so the FXB had also a wrong permissions setting, that's why the presets don't save permanently, it was set to “read&write“ for my name and for “read only“ for admins which again is a contradiction. I repaired permissions for the main folder last night after discovering this, and obviously I did not change permissions for the FXB, Jesus what a waste of time.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
fmr wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
And what about that FXB file? Is it empty, or does it contain the presets you did? Can it be that you are saving the bank as FXB, even if you are using AU version of the instrument?

I ask this because you mentiontied a TARGET "bank" and there is no such thing as AU "bank", just individual preset files. Sorry if I am stating the obvious... :borg:
the FXB is a closed format, I can't see what's in it. Maybe with a text editor, I'll try.
so the FXB had also a wrong permissions setting, that's why the presets don't save permanently, it was set to “read&write“ for my name and for “read only“ for admins which again is a contradiction. I repaired permissions for the main folder last night after discovering this, and obviously I did not change permissions for the FXB, Jesus what a waste of time.
oh, too bad, i'm sorry.
it seem to be a problem with the installer, that the base folder has wrong permission :(

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
fmr wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
And what about that FXB file? Is it empty, or does it contain the presets you did? Can it be that you are saving the bank as FXB, even if you are using AU version of the instrument?

I ask this because you mentiontied a TARGET "bank" and there is no such thing as AU "bank", just individual preset files. Sorry if I am stating the obvious... :borg:
the FXB is a closed format, I can't see what's in it. Maybe with a text editor, I'll try.
so the FXB had also a wrong permissions setting, that's why the presets don't save permanently, it was set to “read&write“ for my name and for “read only“ for admins which again is a contradiction. I repaired permissions for the main folder last night after discovering this, and obviously I did not change permissions for the FXB, Jesus what a waste of time.
Damn it, even after repairing permissions the presets don't save, it seems the FXB does not react at all, it shows the presets are added, and they appear in a list, then you close the DAW, reopen and BAM. I'm out of here for now...

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origwt wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
fmr wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
And what about that FXB file? Is it empty, or does it contain the presets you did? Can it be that you are saving the bank as FXB, even if you are using AU version of the instrument?

I ask this because you mentiontied a TARGET "bank" and there is no such thing as AU "bank", just individual preset files. Sorry if I am stating the obvious... :borg:
the FXB is a closed format, I can't see what's in it. Maybe with a text editor, I'll try.
so the FXB had also a wrong permissions setting, that's why the presets don't save permanently, it was set to “read&write“ for my name and for “read only“ for admins which again is a contradiction. I repaired permissions for the main folder last night after discovering this, and obviously I did not change permissions for the FXB, Jesus what a waste of time.
oh, too bad, i'm sorry.
it seem to be a problem with the installer, that the base folder has wrong permission :(
It looks like your installer changed the permission of the main Main HD/Library/Audio/“Presets“ folder which contains thousands of presets from all sorts of plugins.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
fmr wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: And it just happened again, as soon as I close my DAW, all the presets I just saved into my target bank are lost again, see screenshot:
Bildschirmfoto 2015-11-20 um 12.05.50.png
And what about that FXB file? Is it empty, or does it contain the presets you did? Can it be that you are saving the bank as FXB, even if you are using AU version of the instrument?

I ask this because you mentiontied a TARGET "bank" and there is no such thing as AU "bank", just individual preset files. Sorry if I am stating the obvious... :borg:
the FXB is a closed format, I can't see what's in it. Maybe with a text editor, I'll try.
so the FXB had also a wrong permissions setting, that's why the presets don't save permanently, it was set to “read&write“ for my name and for “read only“ for admins which again is a contradiction. I repaired permissions for the main folder last night after discovering this, and obviously I did not change permissions for the FXB, Jesus what a waste of time.
Damn it, even after repairing permissions the presets don't save, it seems the FXB does not react at all, it shows the presets are added, and they appear in a list, then you close the DAW, reopen and BAM. I'm out of here for now...
when you save a bank (with the SAVE BANK button on the browser page) the fxb gets updated. you can see that in the Mac Finder.

then when you start your DAW and load the bank manually in again you will find the correct last saved content.

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