Zebra 3 Public Beta Revision 20399

[VitaminD]

What a place! Where else can you see two grown men talk about Twinkles in a serious, technical setting?

[exmatproton]

Sure, I get it for Sync. I don't think it makes sense for most others though.

Anyhow, we're at a stage where we won't add terribly much. Maybe down the road in subsequent updates.

for Twinkles it would make sense 100%, since now the effect is always (in my opinion) too loud

Twinkles needs a volume and a range control... the original spectrum is always present here

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[exmatproton]

What a place! Where else can you see two grown men talk about Twinkles in a serious, technical setting?

[Urs]

[machinesworking]

At the end of the day it's still a business, you gotta cater to the bigger crowd if you want to success (it's not like Z3 doesnt sell, but you know what I mean in this context). Urs and his team will never be able to find a perfect solution that satisfies both ends of the spectrum (Zebra 2 users <----> Serum/PS users) because it simply does not exist.

I don't know anyone who doesn't like the Pigments GUI (barring the new Macro buttons), or the new Absynth 6 GUI. So I do think there's a chance for a real solution. Vital also has a solid GUI that is hard to knock.

Are you serious? Pigments GUI is a sluggish half-baked mess. I own a copy and I uninstalled it mostly because of the GUI (but also because almost everything else sounds better than Pigments).

You have one post.
Trolling is an art, you have to fool me into believing you're serious, so I get emotionally invested in convincing you why your position is wrong. You can't do that by starting off full guns blaring! Buy me lunch first, tell me we're going to be the talk of the town, then ask me why would I wear something so unflattering?!?

[misterandy]

Sure, 2 voices it would probably have.

Harmonics panning, if viable would happen in the additive renderer...

I had a long thought about harmonics panning the other week. It would be very transparent on the higher frequencies because there are so many partials, but for the first few harmonics, a hard panned fundamental would be too disorienting. If we can set a zone where the panning actually takes place, leaving the first few ones center, instead give them 2 voices + minimum detune unison. In theory it should be the cleanest way to get stereo, right?

(This is not really a feature request btw, just a random thought)

Cool idea with panning harmonics. You can do a lot already by using multiple oscillators. For instance, draw in the first few (lowest) partials in Osc 1 (senter), draw in every other partial onwards in Osc 2 (panned left), copy Osc 2 and paste it into Osc 3, right click and "Flip Y", adjust the curve a bit (panned right). Voila!

[orbitfold]

At the end of the day it's still a business, you gotta cater to the bigger crowd if you want to success (it's not like Z3 doesnt sell, but you know what I mean in this context). Urs and his team will never be able to find a perfect solution that satisfies both ends of the spectrum (Zebra 2 users <----> Serum/PS users) because it simply does not exist.

I don't know anyone who doesn't like the Pigments GUI (barring the new Macro buttons), or the new Absynth 6 GUI. So I do think there's a chance for a real solution. Vital also has a solid GUI that is hard to knock.

Are you serious? Pigments GUI is a sluggish half-baked mess. I own a copy and I uninstalled it mostly because of the GUI (but also because almost everything else sounds better than Pigments).

You have one post.
Trolling is an art, you have to fool me into believing you're serious, so I get emotionally invested in convincing you why your position is wrong. You can't do that by starting off full guns blaring! Buy me lunch first, tell me we're going to be the talk of the town, then ask me why would I wear something so unflattering?!?

No yeah, I stand corrected.

[jtsterays]

Sure, 2 voices it would probably have.

Harmonics panning, if viable would happen in the additive renderer...

I had a long thought about harmonics panning the other week. It would be very transparent on the higher frequencies because there are so many partials, but for the first few harmonics, a hard panned fundamental would be too disorienting. If we can set a zone where the panning actually takes place, leaving the first few ones center, instead give them 2 voices + minimum detune unison. In theory it should be the cleanest way to get stereo, right?

(This is not really a feature request btw, just a random thought)

Cool idea with panning harmonics. You can do a lot already by using multiple oscillators. For instance, draw in the first few (lowest) partials in Osc 1 (senter), draw in every other partial onwards in Osc 2 (panned left), copy Osc 2 and paste it into Osc 3, right click and "Flip Y", adjust the curve a bit (panned right). Voila!

You can separate odd and even with Spectral Focus too. But would be nice if we dont have to use 2 oscs.

[JoeLowery215]

I'm trying to find out if this was mentioned but did you get rid of the "soft attack" mode? I can't for the life of me to get a super clicky sine wave sound.

[Howard]

I'm trying to find out if this was mentioned but did you get rid of the "soft attack" mode? I can't for the life of me to get a super clicky sine wave sound.

V1 Init, at 100. Of course Attack at 0. You might also have to adjust oscillator Phase so that it starts at an extreme.

[jtsterays]

So I have 2 Oscs with 2 different Envs, I want both of them routed to a filter, but keeping their separate envs. What's the cleanest way to do this? Atm what Im doing is just chaining all of them to 1 column, then use Env 2 to module the volume knob in Osc 2. But that's still not a workaround because if for example env 1 is a long attack pad type adsr, and env 2 is a short decay pluck, the env 1 is gonna override env 2 and make my 2nd osc disappear.

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[ffx]

Sure, I get it for Sync. I don't think it makes sense for most others though.

Anyhow, we're at a stage where we won't add terribly much. Maybe down the road in subsequent updates.

I see this is already decided... IMHO a missed opportunity, "small" effort, huge benefit. Next topic then

[Urs]

I see this is already decided...

Judging from our other software, we have always improved things over time.

But right now we want to finish up for initial release. That's bugfixes, optimisation, UI...

We have about 200 feature requests and improvement tickets, which we'll look at in the years to come.

[stippenstoh]

Can I reset only one module ?

That's where module presets come in handy. Just set the comb module up the way you want it, then click the triangle in the upper left corner to save it as a module preset.
We want to include init presets for all modules, but so far didn't have time to create those.

+1 for module "init".

Right now (some?) modules do not go back to their default settings even after deleting and setting up new, they'd still remember the last settings used. Can be quite cumbersome.

[0matt]

I look forward to any improvements made for the official release and find it commendable that u‑he is actively monitoring feedback.
I especially hope the release includes many more factory presets, as I think that’s the best way to learn the synth, particularly since I never owned Zebra 2.
The white/blue color scheme from Zebralette 3 would be fantastic as well.
Congrats, u‑he!