I actually don't as I got Traction when it was Mackie already. There no reason to think developer has any personal obligations to users. We do as please, Jules is not an exception. For me Traction2 was worth every $ it costs. With Jules or not it still works and when it eventually will get broken then well... Someone else will have my business.Rock wrote:remember the days when you could think of a cool new feature, tell Jules and it would be in Tracktion a week later...
hmmm...
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- KVRian
- 762 posts since 2 Sep, 2004 from Poland
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- KVRian
- 1272 posts since 11 Apr, 2002 from Nashville, TN
Tracktion might be worth the $150, but the question for users like me is: Will my investment in time spent with Tracktion be a good long term investment. I've invested 100's of hours in Tracktion that could have been spent learning protools which is the studio defacto (this is my livelihood not my hobby). I did that convinced that Tracktion would live up to it's potential. Part of my confidence was in Jule's genius. Also if you had been here from the beginning you would realize why some people might feel slightly misled. We were given the impression that Jules would remain at the helm.
I'm not saying that the new programmers won't do a fine job. But confidence is earned and... well they're the NEW programmers. Beno, now would be a great time to release a killer update. I'll try to remain positive.
I'm not saying that the new programmers won't do a fine job. But confidence is earned and... well they're the NEW programmers. Beno, now would be a great time to release a killer update. I'll try to remain positive.
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
keep your faith strong & have trust that more than one is better than one 
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- KVRian
- 1272 posts since 11 Apr, 2002 from Nashville, TN
I hope that won't be Mackies view... it wasn't Jule's. He said in this forum he planned to make Tracktion a real competitor for PT.rpc9943 wrote:tsk tsk.
screw protools. screw studios.
t2. bedroom studios.
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
unless we are talking about your partners current sexual partnersdjsubject wrote:& have trust that more than one is better than one
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Right.. so you think Pro-Tools is all coded by one bloke with a hang-over then?Rock wrote:I hope that won't be Mackies view... it wasn't Jule's. He said in this forum he planned to make Tracktion a real competitor for PT.
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- KVRist
- 102 posts since 10 Apr, 2003 from Bed, mainly
...parts of it certainly seem like that to me.IIRs wrote:Right.. so you think Pro-Tools is all coded by one bloke with a hang-over then?
Philip
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
Jules is a sharp one though: his design for T cut direct to the chase - very fresh and clear-eyed. The excellence of that design is what I was buying - just hope the folks doing the renovation don't screw it up!
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Well, Jules is a genius obviously, but I'm confident that Tracktion is in good hands. 
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
Although a good "soundbite", this is actually nonsense when you think about it more closely (no offense intended though djdjsubject wrote:keep your faith strong & have trust that more than one is better than one
)Let me illustrate:
I can play Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata on the piano. But none of my Grade 1 piano students can. Nor can my grade 3 piano students. In fact, five grade 3 students working together as a team could not play it. It simply doesn't work that way
Going back to Tracktion, those of us who have used Tracktion for a couple of years or more remember the speed with which Jules updated the program... and the passion that he clearly had for it.
In the last 18 months or so Tracktion seems to have made much less progress, irrespective of however many programmers are involved. In fact, new Mackie effects promised for May/June have never materialised yet... and it's nearly October.
In the meantime, Cubase SX3 and now Sonar 5 have both implemented inline MIDI editing, and in the case of Sonar have adopted some killer workflow ideas, including some nicked from Tracktion 1. I've seen people suggesting that workflow in Sonar 5 is actually looking better than in T2
- something I certainly never expected to happen!I'm pleased to see Jules popping into this thread with some chipper comments - as in the days of old! - but it seems to me that the software he developed with such passion and vigour is beginning to look more like a real slow plodder now... and a FAR less dynamic prospect for the future.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
yeah, jeepers what a totally trolling post! headquest there are times i respect you, and there are times when you are a knob. half of your post entirely contradicts the other half, and it begins with the most pointless and inappropriate analogy known to a pianist.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
Jeez, headquest, I wish you were wrong, but what you stated here seems right on the mark.headquest wrote: Going back to Tracktion, those of us who have used Tracktion for a couple of years or more remember the speed with which Jules updated the program... and the passion that he clearly had for it.
In the last 18 months or so Tracktion seems to have made much less progress, irrespective of however many programmers are involved. In fact, new Mackie effects promised for May/June have never materialised yet... and it's nearly October.
In the meantime, Cubase SX3 and now Sonar 5 have both implemented inline MIDI editing, and in the case of Sonar have adopted some killer workflow ideas, including some nicked from Tracktion 1. I've seen people suggesting that workflow in Sonar 5 is actually looking better than in T2
I'm pleased to see Jules popping into this thread with some chipper comments - as in the days of old! - but it seems to me that the software he developed with such passion and vigour is beginning to look more like a real slow plodder now... and a FAR less dynamic prospect for the future.
Still waiting for:
1. Usable time stretch ala ACID, ReCycle, FLStudio, PT, and just about everything else.
2. Usable time stretch ala ACID, ReCycle, FLStudio, PT, and just about everything else.
3. Usable time stretch ala ACID, ReCycle, FLStudio, PT, and just about everything else.
4. Usable time stretch ala ACID, ReCycle, FLStudio, PT, and just about everything else.
5. Notation editor for MIDI, just for kicks to give me the same functionality as my $49 other sequencer, PowerTracks Pro Audio.
What I'm not waiting for with T:
1. Mackie to make deals with other companies to bloat T with plugins I may already have or don't care about unless that plugin provides a great time-stretch/auto slice feature - but even version 2 was sans-stretch.
-Scott
