audio looping tool for Tracktion ?

[rockstar_not]

1. Import a loop.
2. Change T's tempo to match the loop's length in bars

that's what i rade from the forum Rockstar_not linked above.
I just would like something doing the opposite (as the sKnote stuff seems to work) : syncing the loop to the tempo (and not the tempo to the loop).
I just hoped that it was possible to make a nearly transparent, tracktion/wrappable macro or addon giving the user the possibility to make with one keyboard shortcut (or so) what you have to do in 4 or 5 steps...
Something which doesn't requires to get learned, nor midi manipulation...something quick, efficient time-gaining add-on !
The "brush" tool on Acid is perfect : just paint your track with it, auto-tempo sync !
Tracktion's lacking such a feature !

Well, if such a thing doesn't exist (or can't exist, which is worse !), i'll even be glad to know the existence of Sknote traks !

Very nicely stated.

When T1 was advertised as having time stretch in the editing features list, your description is what I expected; being an ACID user myself. T2 webpage doesn't mention timestretch at all - my guess is since it really is just a sound mangler, rather than a proper ACID-like time stretcher.

But I would settle for my slice/dice to multiple clips, then grouping clips easily for shuttling around and copying in an edit.

-Scott

[Lunch Money]

@zeoy: I check my box every time I see a "(1 new)" in my notification area! And I just had a peek and there's nothing from you in there.

Some sort of weird server glitch?

Greg

[zeoy]

@zeoy: I check my box every time I see a "(1 new)" in my notification area! And I just had a peek and there's nothing from you in there.

Some sort of weird server glitch?

Greg

Most probably Greg, anyway I am sending you a new one.

[rivrock]

Here's a handy little tool for making loops in Tracktion, if this isnt exactly what youre looking for, you might find it useful anyway.

It works great for me.

LSR (Loop sync recorder)

http://devine-machine.com/newsite/index.html

~

[sinkmusic]

yes
thanx for the link
i already knew this one
But i'm working with many files, not all at the same tempo, and i like to be able to have them gathered and tempo-sync easily and quickly in one song, what LSR doesn't permit...
LSR is useful to record something which is already at the desired tempo, but i like my freedom to change it !

[Bennett]

MicroDicer was recommended to me and now I recommend it to you - if it hasn't been already

[Lunch Money]

Microdicer or the beatslice capabilities of eXT's sampler will handle the task.

[sinkmusic]

well
I have Microdicer in my plugin folde but never thought of using it (Live4 and Acid does the job nicely tracktion doesn't !)
Now i might find it useful !
thanx to remember me of it.
Slknote trax seems to rock too !

[Lunch Money]

Why would you buy a plug-in whose sole purpose is slicing, and then just 'forget' about it??

I'd be curious to know what kind of music you do that relies so heavily on loops. I like loops, too, and I'm not an "anti-loop snob", but there's only 'so' much you can do with them before it's time to call in your creativity. MIDI drums rule over loops for the most part. I LOOooooves me some Beta Monkey drum loops, though, so don't get me wrong.

Even in the loop domain, though, all it takes is some creativity! For example, using only Tracktion:

You have a loop. You slice it up manually at the transients. Play each slice back to make sure they seem to 'make sense' and that the slice is correct. Add quick little teeeeeeny tiny fade-ins and/or outs if necessary to remove 'clicking' produced at non-zero crossings.

For a 1-bar loop, you should have probably about 10 or 12 individual slices, depending on the complexity of the loop.

Now, you save each slice individually, and then drag-n-drop them into Tracktion's Sampler.

Bam, now you have instant slice-tastic goodness, triggered in any order you want using only MIDI. Even Acid Loops really just work this way. It's not like in Acid format, the kicks, snares, etc, are all individual components. The only difference with Acid Loops is that somebody has done the work for you (which is awesome, I'd rather have them do the work, too!).

A lot of work? Sure. Redundant if you already own Microdicer? Yup. But it's something that could've been done all along, since T1.x, and all it takes is a bit of work ethic and creativity.

I'm still boggled that you forgot you own a software that only has one very specific purpose. I wish I had that kind of luxury.

[Rock]

Slicing may work well for drums but it's murder on pedal steel. Beno please have the Tracktion developers add an acid like time-stretching, pencil-drawing, hair-raising, wiz-bam-boo-banging native solution. Thanks

[sinkmusic]

Rock, i agree with you.
Lunch Money, i think my english is a bit bad and that i don't get very well understood by you (an i made mistakes !), as we almso get confused on another forum ( ).

Why would you buy a plug-in whose sole purpose is slicing, and then just 'forget' about it??

I made a mistake, i was talking about a free slicer-prototype by Cfx, not the payware ones (i think the name is dicer or micro-something...) ;
I did not remember because acid fullfilled my needs untill recently, so i never took the time to learn the way to control a slicer..

I'd be curious to know what kind of music you do that relies so heavily on loops. I like loops, too, and I'm not an "anti-loop snob",

Well, i personally am some kind of an "anti-loop" snob, but to destroy them, i first have to build them, and, as i take time to "deconstruct" loops, i don't have much time to take to make audio sample (i all made, i do never use somebody else's samples) synced together !
When i compare with acid, it is to point out its ability to put 2 audio samples perfectly synchronized using only a brush tool !
When you work with about 80 tracks always renewingthemselves,it is allways pain in the ass( i think it is the "correct" english expression ? ) to stretch them manually and independantly...

Even in the loop domain, though, all it takes is some creativity!

I do agree, but when you want the creativity to be somewhere else, you really appreciate to gain time with autosync !!!

[Lunch Money]

Fair enough, sinkmusic.

Rock-- Acid time-stretch won't work perfectly on pedal steel, either, for the most part. We need something more like Zplane Elastique.

[Rock]

Fair enough, sinkmusic.

Rock-- Acid time-stretch won't work perfectly on pedal steel, either, for the most part. We need something more like Zplane Elastique.

Hmm don't know about Zplane except for on Fantacy Island. Xplane

[Lunch Money]

[rockstar_not]

Greg,

Slicing and loading into T's sampler - some problems there - that implies that one can program beats!!!

I've got loads of nice drum samples to play with, but I can't program them worth crap. And yes, I know that I can line-up the midi editor with an audio file - but this is really cumbersome.

Much simpler to go out to my old-school ACID 2.0 and do the whole song the way I want by painting loops.

I would love to let that old ACID go, but I keep holding on waiting for the capability right inside T.

-Scott