The "Ultimate" live rig? It works for me... :D

[thesoundsmith]

If you use midi control, RMX has virtually every parameter available - and there are a lot of them! I still haven't gotten very far with that matrix/puzzle (what key to control what) but on the Axiom, which I can program to do damn near anything I can think of, I have buttons to turn on each of the eight rhythm tracks. By having different grooves loaded into each tack, you can play one at a time and set to switch on Next Bar so it stays in sync. To switch pattern in the middle of a tune, create sets of related loops and use them as Groove tracks, then a single midi note will trigger the corresponding loop, and that note DOES need to be held until done (but it will play to the end of the pattern. Add Chaos to get interesting variations...

[thesoundsmith]

New glitch - minor but annoying: I have the pad layer on channel 14 set to Listen to All and play channel 14. The only on-off control I have is via volume, so if I change volume on any instrument via cc7, it also changes the volume on the bg pad, even if it was off originally. I need a player with an alternative on/off instead of cc7-only control (working on it...)

[oGG]

...There are a LOT more ways to work, this is just my first major configuration. I have others for RMX rhythm backgrounds, or mp3 playback tracks, but they're not ready for real-time yet.

What do you use for MP3 playback? I've tried Mp3Play but it kind of useless if you don't actually have a screen. Plus it's not very stable.

I've read somewhere that sfz+ can play OGG vorbis files, anyone tried this?

I guess you could set up Kontakt to stream a couple of wav's on touch of a key or so, but having mp3 or ogg capability would be really handy.

Edit: Did a search for ogg vst plugins and found this: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1922.html it installs and runs allright, but you can't save presets.


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Olle Gustafsson

[thesoundsmith]

haven't gotten mp3play to work right either, though i did have limited sucess loading a set of files and using keyboard to play. select new, change speed etc. But it woun't load the song list when re-instantiating, even as a receptorized preset. Still working on it. I have Octomag.dll installed and 'running' but it's wavs only and I also have noty really tested how to control it. And you're right, mp3play is not very stable...

[PhilMuller]

This thread is getting really good! Thanks Dasher. Give me about a week or two to try your techniques. I will start a thread asking people to list their plugins and MIDI channels.

[gregh1]

Another MP3 player to try:
http://www.irdbisa.com/gunshopsoft/xtal/

[Bryan@MuseResearch]

Hi guys

This is a really great thread, but I'm surprised that you aren't using Snapshots for this, Dasher. Idling at 55% of the CPU is eating up a lot of CPU (which means you can't use it for making sounds) and using this exact setup but creating snapshots for the various patches will probably knock the idle down to 20%. Having said that, a LOT of bands are using Receptor in exactly this way, and even with relatively high CPU idle, Receptor is working just great for them.

I promise we'll get some videos posted over the next couple of months on how to create snapshots, In fact, if any of you have some usage scenaria you'd like to see explained in video on plugorama so as to make it easier to understand the particular concept, please let me know. And again this is a great post... very informative, and I completely agree, this is a kickass rig config!

Cheers

Bryan from Muse

[PhilMuller]

Hi guys

This is a really great thread, but I'm surprised that you aren't using Snapshots for this, Dasher. Idling at 55% of the CPU is eating up a lot of CPU (which means you can't use it for making sounds) and using this exact setup but creating snapshots for the various patches will probably knock the idle down to 20%. Having said that, a LOT of bands are using Receptor in exactly this way, and even with relatively high CPU idle, Receptor is working just great for them.

I promise we'll get some videos posted over the next couple of months on how to create snapshots, In fact, if any of you have some usage scenaria you'd like to see explained in video on plugorama so as to make it easier to understand the particular concept, please let me know. And again this is a great post... very informative, and I completely agree, this is a kickass rig config!

Cheers

Bryan from Muse

Bryan,

Although we all love Receptor and what you are doing with Snapshots... it doesn't fill the bill just yet. What Dasher, I and others need is... Snapshots that allow the individual instruments to receive program changes and other controller changes. You don't think that we only use one Minimonsta patch all night long?

Let me explain with the following example:

1. Let's say you have Minimonsta in slot 1 - MIDI channel 1, Albino in Slot 2 - MIDI channel 2 and Ivory on Slot 3 - MIDI Channel 14.

2. You send program change #5 to Albino via MIDI channel 2.

3. Receptor responds by changing the Snapshot-Multi to Snapshot Multi #5. Not good!

4. This of course may place different instruments in these slots, mute a slot or slots, but it does NOT, however, send the program change to Albino on Midi Channel 2 without affecting other things.

One of the best functional Snapshot scenarios that I can think of is:

1. Allow the user to flag a slot as "static or unaffected by any program change" (multi, single or instrument). For example, Ivory. We all love ivory, but we can't afford to have Ivory load 6GB worth of samples every time we make a program change. We want Ivory or some large piano plugin to be static and just sit on a MIDI channel the whole night long and be available no matter what else happens.

2. Allow the user to flag slots as:
a. "instrument program change affected only"
b. "single program change affected only"
c. "FXA program change only"
d. "FXB program change only"
e. "FXC program change only"

I hope I have been constructive.

Phil

[PhilMuller]

Dasher,

How do you play Channel 9 (Trilogy Bass and Piano split) with a sustain pedal? Do you really want sustain on the bass! Is there a way to tell Trilogy to not pay attention to CC #64.

Phil

[Bryan@MuseResearch]

Phil said:

Although we all love Receptor and what you are doing with Snapshots... it doesn't fill the bill just yet. What Dasher, I and others need is... Snapshots that allow the individual instruments to receive program changes and other controller changes. You don't think that we only use one Minimonsta patch all night long?


Bryan replies

Actually, a huge number of people I've met DO use the same sound again and again, and in fact what they will do is create a few snapshots that they use through the night. Yeah, it involves a little programming ahead of time, but most set lists are defined before the gig, and as long as your controller has program changes defined per song and the lead singer doesn't call a song out that is in the OTHER snapshot during the current set, you should be fine.

That being said, we hear what you are saying loud and clear and a new and improved version of Snapshots is "on the list" along with dozen of other features.

As always, we really appreciate your support and input, it is what makes Receptor cool!

Cheers

Bryan

[thesoundsmith]

And Phil, the answer is - I don't! I try to not use sustainunless the bass is also holding. It IS an issue, and there is no way around it without a keyboard that can program splits, doing it the way I am doing..

[PhilMuller]

And Phil, the answer is - I don't! I try to not use sustain unless the bass is also holding. It IS an issue, and there is no way around it without a keyboard that can program splits, doing it the way I am doing..

Thanks Dasher. This concept, "MIDI filtering based on note range", would be a perfect add-on for the "MIDI Filter Page". It would be on the top of my Receptor wish-list Bryan.

You could take all the MIDI concepts that hardware devices like Axiom, "MIDI Solutions" and "MIDI Temp" are doing now and put them into Receptor through software. The functional design has already been laid out both other companies. All you have to do is implement the design. I am tingling just thinking about it!

[Bryan@MuseResearch]

We plan to greatly enhance MIDI filtering in an upcoming release. Its just a simple matter of software :shock:

Thanks for the input, it is very much appreciated

bryan

[thesoundsmith]

This concept, "MIDI filtering based on note range", would be a perfect add-on for the "MIDI Filter Page". It would be on the top of my Receptor wish-list Bryan.

It already does this for the channel, if you are using two mixer channels to create the split, then you need channel midi cc filtering. If you need the same multi0channel plug (like GPO) to pass some ccs on one channel but not on the other, I think you'd need to address that in the VSTi, not the Receptor control.

[PhilMuller]

This concept, "MIDI filtering based on note range", would be a perfect add-on for the "MIDI Filter Page". It would be on the top of my Receptor wish-list Bryan.

It already does this for the channel, if you are using two mixer channels to create the split, then you need channel midi cc filtering. If you need the same multi0channel plug (like GPO) to pass some ccs on one channel but not on the other, I think you'd need to address that in the VSTi, not the Receptor control.

That would make sense if the VSTi can do this, but some don't. This is where the built in Receptor functionality would help.