Well, that depends on the amount of your income - for a marketing manager $179 is a peanut, for an owner of a big studio with top productions, too, but for someone with less money and a smaller home studio it can be A LOT. Not everyone at KVR has a great job and tons of money on the bank account waiting to finally be spent...OzWozEre wrote:Or maybe, you just realise that $179 isn't that much to pay for such a quality synth...
Can we expect any seasonal discounts on u-he.com?
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
- KVRAF
- 27000 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Big difference... U-he is not priced higher than other options... And if you factor in the free upgrades and ongoing development then U-he synths are cheaper than many alternatives. Some companies do not add new developments to existing synths. The create a new product. Then to entice you to get it, they may offer a 'discount'. U-he often adds that new tech to existing products and then gives it to you for free... which is already a better discount.OzWozEre wrote: IMO U-he enjoys the same market status that Apple enjoys -- they can charge what they want and if anyone complains -- a hord of kvr fanboys will run to their defense.
U-he could have made a whole new synth just with the new Digital Osc and Uhbie filter as the centerpiece. Instead of getting a 'discount' on that new synth, you get it free in a Diva update.
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- KVRist
- 349 posts since 5 Nov, 2012
I'm sorry you feel that way... really I am.Tricky-Loops wrote:Well, that depends on the amount of your income - for a marketing manager $179 is a peanut, for an owner of a big studio with top productions, too, but for someone with less money and a smaller home studio it can be A LOT. Not everyone at KVR has a great job and tons of money on the bank account waiting to finally be spent...OzWozEre wrote:Or maybe, you just realise that $179 isn't that much to pay for such a quality synth...
Just remember you HAD to spend TENS of $THOUSANDS in the old days just to be creative/musical/try... this is my relative view-point when I see something that's a fraction of the cost and gives me the same amount of value (or more, depending on your opinion).
Try buying a Jupiter 8 or Prophet 5 on Ebay!
Then a drum machine
Then a mixer
Then something to record it on...
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- KVRist
- 349 posts since 5 Nov, 2012
True, true.pdxindy wrote:Big difference... U-he is not priced higher than other options... And if you factor in the free upgrades and ongoing development then U-he synths are cheaper than many alternatives. Some companies do not add new developments to existing synths. The create a new product. Then to entice you to get it, they may offer a 'discount'. U-he often adds that new tech to existing products and then gives it to you for free... which is already a better discount.OzWozEre wrote: IMO U-he enjoys the same market status that Apple enjoys -- they can charge what they want and if anyone complains -- a hord of kvr fanboys will run to their defense.
U-he could have made a whole new synth just with the new Digital Osc and Uhbie filter as the centerpiece. Instead of getting a 'discount' on that new synth, you get it free in a Diva update.
This is a great point that shouldn't be overlooked!
- KVRAF
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- 8704 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
Of course, but I always try and help the developer by buying directly, if a deal can be done.Kriminal wrote:u-he stuff is always in the Market Place, im sure you can pick up a bargain from there. (i think ppl impulse buy and then realise its too complex)spaceman wrote:schandalous!
I'll be looking at synthmaster then![]()
In this case, I'm on a tight budget, so 2nd hand it is.
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8704 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
Isn't Zebra $199 anyway? :pTricky-Loops wrote:Well, that depends on the amount of your income - for a marketing manager $179 is a peanut, for an owner of a big studio with top productions, too, but for someone with less money and a smaller home studio it can be A LOT. Not everyone at KVR has a great job and tons of money on the bank account waiting to finally be spent...OzWozEre wrote:Or maybe, you just realise that $179 isn't that much to pay for such a quality synth...
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRist
- 349 posts since 5 Nov, 2012
It depends on what you consider u-he's flagship product -- isn't that Diva?spaceman wrote:Isn't Zebra $199 anyway? :pTricky-Loops wrote:Well, that depends on the amount of your income - for a marketing manager $179 is a peanut, for an owner of a big studio with top productions, too, but for someone with less money and a smaller home studio it can be A LOT. Not everyone at KVR has a great job and tons of money on the bank account waiting to finally be spent...OzWozEre wrote:Or maybe, you just realise that $179 isn't that much to pay for such a quality synth...
At least in my mind
- u-he
- 30248 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Diva and Zebra sales numbers vary by less than 3% over two years. One could argue, they're equal flagships.OzWozEre wrote:It depends on what you consider u-he's flagship product -- isn't that Diva?
At least in my mind
Zebra however has more than twice the userbase of Diva because it's older.
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- KVRAF
- 35702 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Well, the "free" updates flow into the price.pdxindy wrote: Big difference... U-he is not priced higher than other options... And if you factor in the free upgrades and ongoing development then U-he synths are cheaper than many alternatives.
- KVRAF
- 27000 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
$149 with the 'dinosaur' discountspaceman wrote:Isn't Zebra $199 anyway? :pTricky-Loops wrote:Well, that depends on the amount of your income - for a marketing manager $179 is a peanut, for an owner of a big studio with top productions, too, but for someone with less money and a smaller home studio it can be A LOT. Not everyone at KVR has a great job and tons of money on the bank account waiting to finally be spent...OzWozEre wrote:Or maybe, you just realise that $179 isn't that much to pay for such a quality synth...
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- KVRist
- 61 posts since 4 Oct, 2006 from MD, USA
That sums it up.OzWozEre wrote: Or maybe, you just realise that $179 isn't that much to pay for such a quality synth that you just shut the f**k up and buy the damn thing![]()
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
It 'helps' that there's nothing to do where I live, most of the pubs are super unfriendly and I live with my parents for various reasons. When you think of the cost of a night or meal out it puts things in perspective. Most of the people I know spend their money on getting drunk and getting into drama and fights, then waiting for the nightclubber bus in the rain whilst having to defend themselves against chavs 
Sorry, but that doesn't sound like fun to me
Sorry, but that doesn't sound like fun to me
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
I bought Zebra2 when it was released in 2006 for the introductory price of $169. For 7 years we've had free updates, tons of free presets, new modules, and a wonderful and vibrant community. Cost to me per year: $25. That's $2 a month. If you view Zebra2 as a musical investment it's incredibly inexpensive.
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- KVRAF
- 1721 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
That, plus the fact that Zebra 3 will come at a ridiculously low upgrade price, and the value is almost unbelievable!bmrzycki wrote:I bought Zebra2 when it was released in 2006 for the introductory price of $169. For 7 years we've had free updates, tons of free presets, new modules, and a wonderful and vibrant community. Cost to me per year: $25. That's $2 a month. If you view Zebra2 as a musical investment it's incredibly inexpensive.
