One last thing worth mentioning: the two modulation knobs for a filter are summed before applying modulation to cutoff. This means if you take the same modulation source (LFO2 for example) and set it to the first knob with +50, then also set it to the second knob with -50 it will not modulate at all.
However, if you modulate the first knob with LFO2 +50 and then use the mod matrix to modulate cutoff with LFO2 by -50 they will not cancel each other out.
This is due to the slight delay in applying indirect (mod matrix) modulation over direct modulation, and can yield interesting results...
How does it work?
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- KVRist
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- 152 posts since 4 Oct, 2014 from Russia
Thank!bmrzycki wrote:One last thing worth mentioning: the two modulation knobs for a filter are summed before applying modulation to cutoff. This means if you take the same modulation source (LFO2 for example) and set it to the first knob with +50, then also set it to the second knob with -50 it will not modulate at all.
However, if you modulate the first knob with LFO2 +50 and then use the mod matrix to modulate cutoff with LFO2 by -50 they will not cancel each other out.
This is due to the slight delay in applying indirect (mod matrix) modulation over direct modulation, and can yield interesting results...
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- KVRAF
- 2260 posts since 25 Jun, 2008 from Montreal, Canada
Is this a bug or intended design?bmrzycki wrote:This is due to the slight delay in applying indirect (mod matrix) modulation over direct modulation, and can yield interesting results...
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- KVRAF
- 26978 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
design limitation...xx JPRacer xx wrote:Is this a bug or intended design?bmrzycki wrote:This is due to the slight delay in applying indirect (mod matrix) modulation over direct modulation, and can yield interesting results...
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Interesting (?) detail: A modulation level of +50 in the filter panel would normally be cancelled out by setting -33.33 in the matrix, not -50. Don't askbmrzycki wrote:However, if you modulate the first knob with LFO2 +50 and then use the mod matrix to modulate cutoff with LFO2 by -50 they will not cancel each other out.
This is due to the slight delay in applying indirect (mod matrix) modulation over direct modulation, and can yield interesting results...
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- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
That is interesting (to me at least).Howard wrote:Interesting (?) detail: A modulation level of +50 in the filter panel would normally be cancelled out by setting -33.33 in the matrix, not -50. Don't ask
It makes me wonder how you discovered this. I never guessed there'd be a true null point between direct and indirect modulation.
Feel free to call me Brian.
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- KVRist
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- 152 posts since 4 Oct, 2014 from Russia
Tell me if this wiring diagram oscillators simply add? That there is no FM?
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- KVRist
- 163 posts since 14 Aug, 2004
sorry about that
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- KVRist
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Hello! Do I understand correctly modes device delay? I also do not understand what they are doing Ratio knob Thank you!
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- KVRAF
- 24447 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Read the manual, Ratio knob is explained.
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- KVRist
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- 152 posts since 4 Oct, 2014 from Russia
It is written thereEvilDragon wrote:Read the manual, Ratio knob is explained.
The Ratio knob scales this from 0% (4 samples long) to 200%. Pan is of course the stereo position of each delay line
I can not understand because of the bad translation from English What is the 4 sample?
a drawing routing I did the right thing? Thank you
p/s I just want to turn the synth settings consciously rather than blindly not knowing what I'm doing ...
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- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
It means that the minimum delay is extremely short (only 4 samples). You can safely ignore this detail!atmelcool wrote:"The Ratio knob scales this from 0% (4 samples long) to 200%. Pan is of course the stereo position of each delay line"
I can not understand because of the bad translation from English What is the 4 sample?
Delay.png looks correct (but I'm not 100% sure whether e.g. Dubby has some cross-feed in it)