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Teksonik wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:18 am I'm also embarrassed and ashamed at the number of people who have admitted to using cracked software (I never have nor never will).
I was also a little disappointed by this.
It kind of makes the whole "we don't need no copy protection" argument hard to justify. :?
Another interpretation would be that the protection doesn't work. You'd need a set of more specific questions to unpick it all.

It is especially interesting to look at that number vs the demographics. I hope the survey data allows for analysis of correlations between some of these answers.

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xtp wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 11:08 pm I didn't do it because for about 80% of the questions, my answer was not on the list; so in view of that, I thought it pointless to participate.
i saw that it was a survey and thought "i cant be arsed" :)
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Teksonik wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:18 am I'm also embarrassed and ashamed at the number of people who have admitted to using cracked software (I never have nor never will).
When I first got a computer many years ago, I was given copies of some cracked software because I had nothing at all. It was always my intention that this would be temporary and that I would save and start buying stuff. As it happens, I started buying Computer Music magazine and was thus introduced to the world of Freeware. I immediately removed all the cracked stuff. Either way, the developers have no money from me so it makes no practical difference. The existence of quality free plugins is far more of a threat to commercial developers than cracking ever was, and that is virtually no threat at all. I've a feeling that the only developers that might make money from me are U-he, because I would like Repro-1 and possibly Repro-5 and freeware developers whose plugins are particularly useful to me that I might want to donate something to. Anyway, I am now totally legal and will always stay that way. This isn't an excuse, it's just the way it happened.
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you might want to separate the quote from your reply

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AnX wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 11:10 am turn your phone to landscape
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My MusicCalc is served over https!!

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AnX wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:12 pm you might want to separate the quote from your reply
Thanks. Didn't see that. :oops:

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I hate surveys, which have ”either-or” vs. ”both-and” options.

Plus surveys, like this one, which forces to answer every question without the alternative ”DK/Its not your business”, i.e. the respondent has either to answer every question, or become disqualified of the whole survey.

You will miss huge amount of data, because of the ”coitus interreptus” -syndrome.

Most unprofessional. :dog:

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revvy wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 5:49 am
Teksonik wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:18 am "None of these" DAWs is winning by a substantial amount over the top two so obviously the Poll is incomplete. (32.6% for None as opposed to Abelton Live at 17.7% at the time of this post).

I'm also embarrassed and ashamed at the number of people who have admitted to using cracked software (I never have nor never will).

It kind of makes the whole "we don't need no copy protection" argument hard to justify. :?
I think devs need copy protection.

No contradiction there for me.
That was my whole point. With such a large percentage of people admitting to being pirates the argument that Devs don't need copy protection is hard to support.

Of course Devs need copy protection. The Poll results do nothing but confirm that fact.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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BertKoor wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:28 pm
AnX wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 11:10 am turn your phone to landscape
:tantrum:
i had the same problem, worked for me

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Teksonik wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:28 pm
revvy wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 5:49 am
Teksonik wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:18 am "None of these" DAWs is winning by a substantial amount over the top two so obviously the Poll is incomplete. (32.6% for None as opposed to Abelton Live at 17.7% at the time of this post).

I'm also embarrassed and ashamed at the number of people who have admitted to using cracked software (I never have nor never will).

It kind of makes the whole "we don't need no copy protection" argument hard to justify. :?
I think devs need copy protection.

No contradiction there for me.
That was my whole point. With such a large percentage of people admitting to being pirates the argument that Devs don't need copy protection is hard to support.

Of course Devs need copy protection. The Poll results do nothing but confirm that fact.
You missed the first bit of my reply which gave the context for the second part.

Anyway, we both agree devs are justified in protecting their product and neither of us do snide stuff. That's fine.
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I didn't miss it I just couldn't make sense of it.....
revvy wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 5:49 am I'm a believer in 'it ain't where you're from it's where you're at'.
To me it could read that it's "ok if someone was a Pirate in the past as long as they aren't one now". But perhaps that's not what you meant... :shrug:

Can anyone actually get to the Poll results now ? I was able to view them earlier but can't seem to do so now. Maybe I'm just missing it...... :?

Saw this in another thread:
robotmonkey wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 12:58 pm EDIT: Seems that the result have disappeared for some reason. Maybe so many people admitted using pirated software that Hink was triggered again.
Perhaps the result are hidden because of those results. Last time I looked it was like 40 something percent admitted to having pirated and quite a few percent voted "would rather not say" or whatever the response was which AnX pointed out is possibly an admission of guilt.
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None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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My short answer is instead of being ashamed of folks misbehaving badly in the past, accept their money spent and honesty now. They are not bad people and they are not unlikely to support protection now. You're not their dad.
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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revvy wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:03 am You're not their dad.
Apparently no one else was either.....someone should have taught them morality.

Yes I'm ashamed that such a large percentage of people on a forum I've frequented for nearly two decades have admitted to being thieves at some point in their lives.

I prefer to keep better company...... :shrug:

And like I said on a forum where perhaps as many as 50% have admitted to being pirates it's going to be hard to justify arguing against any form of Copy Protection.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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