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Wotja 21 - AUv3 release (for users of Noatikl, Mixtikl, SSEYO Koan...)
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- KVRAF
- 10375 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
+1 for Windows VST edition. (from a long-time Noatikl user )
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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
I'm with you on that!DarkStar wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:36 pm +1 for Windows VST edition. (from a long-time Noatikl user
But it sounds like they are limiting distribution mainly to app stores, so not likely to happen. Kind of frustrating for those of us who use real computers for music making!
Windows 10 and too many plugins
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 499 posts since 4 Jan, 2008
Hi DarkStar!
As it so happens, early today I approached a senior person at Microsoft to ask them about what plans, if any, they might have to allow VST / host distribution via the Microsoft 10 store
If anybody reaching this has any similar contacts, I'd encourage them to ask, too.
I guess the big plug-in host companies will have the resources to worry about GDPR and other issues around software distribution. The smaller companies like ours find things a bit trickier to navigate!
Apple have made it relatively easy for plug-in companies, large and small, to distribute for both iOS and macOS via the official app store. I really can't see why Microsoft wouldn't allow the same thing through their own store!
Best wishes,
Pete
As it so happens, early today I approached a senior person at Microsoft to ask them about what plans, if any, they might have to allow VST / host distribution via the Microsoft 10 store
If anybody reaching this has any similar contacts, I'd encourage them to ask, too.
I guess the big plug-in host companies will have the resources to worry about GDPR and other issues around software distribution. The smaller companies like ours find things a bit trickier to navigate!
Apple have made it relatively easy for plug-in companies, large and small, to distribute for both iOS and macOS via the official app store. I really can't see why Microsoft wouldn't allow the same thing through their own store!
Best wishes,
Pete
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- KVRian
- 989 posts since 27 Jun, 2011
Hi Peteimpete wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:35 pmHi!zzz00m wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:53 pm Why no plans for VST support? There are more DAW users on Windows DAWs than on Mac or iOS.
Thanks for asking the question.
For a long time now, we've only distributed our software through the various official app stores.
You can read our detailed rationale here:
https://intermorphic.com/help/#faq-app-stores
Luckily for us, Apple support the distributions of Plug-ins (in AUv3 format) as "app extensions" for both iOS and macOS. That has allowed us to start distributing AUv3 format plug-ins to our customers.
Naturally, if Microsoft were ever to allow VST plug-ins through the Windows 10 store, we'd be in a position to look to develop a Wotja VST plug-in for Windows.
With best wishes,
Pete
Sorry for returning late to the thread... not to be pedantic, but are you sure bundling a VST is an issue with Mirosoft?
If you sold, say, a version of Wotja that installs only the app and a version of Wotja that installs a VST along with it, with differing prices, I don't think the Microsoft or Windows store would care.
Or are the restrictions such that you're not even allowed to bundle a DLL with your executable? If that is the case I would consider changing to Steam entirely. I may be being too subjective here but IMO the Windows store is a pretty niche store anyway, I am a lifelong Windows user but I have only bought two apps ever there, and Wotja is one.
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- KVRian
- 735 posts since 13 Jun, 2003 from Shrewsbury, UK
I've only ever bought one App. That was Wotja.wasi wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:02 am I am a lifelong Windows user but I have only bought two apps ever there, and Wotja is one.
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- KVRAF
- 10375 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
I get phone calls every so often from the Windows Technical Department telling me that some criminal internet activity has been reported by my system. I'll ask then next timeimpete wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:15 pm Hi DarkStar!
As it so happens, early today I approached a senior person at Microsoft to ask them about what plans, if any, they might have to allow VST / host distribution via the Microsoft 10 store
If anybody reaching this has any similar contacts, I'd encourage them to ask, too.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 499 posts since 4 Jan, 2008
As it so happens, the person at Microsoft has yet to reply to my questions!
On the other note, I wasn't aware that VSTs can be sold via Steam. Is that now a thing?
Pete
On the other note, I wasn't aware that VSTs can be sold via Steam. Is that now a thing?
Pete
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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
Well Cakewalk was selling their Sonar DAW via Steam a few years ago, before they went under...impete wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:33 pm As it so happens, the person at Microsoft has yet to reply to my questions!
On the other note, I wasn't aware that VSTs can be sold via Steam. Is that now a thing?
Pete
Windows 10 and too many plugins
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- KVRAF
- 2871 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit SW US
I'm a bit puzzled here. Long time Noatikl user (lost it on a computer change, bummed). I have never, nor do i have any plans to, buy anything from the microsoft store. There is no other (fairly easy) way to distribute a vst? 'Cause having Wotja as a vst would really, really be nice.
You folks are doing some great work and i'm glad to see that "generative" has become a common term, hopefully it is reflected in your sales.
You folks are doing some great work and i'm glad to see that "generative" has become a common term, hopefully it is reflected in your sales.
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 6 Jun, 2008
Hi all, there are a number of big reasons we sell only via the 4 main stores. I have reworked our FAQ on that to try to make our rational a bit clearer: https://intermorphic.com/help/#faq-app-stores. We appreciate that everyone has their own preferred stores, and we are really sorry that we cannot accommodate them all 
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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
Windows 10 desktop user here. Tried the Wotja21 Lite for Windows today.
The download link takes you to the Windows Store. You can download and install the free Wotja21 Lite UWP (Universal Windows Platform) app without signing in to the store. If you are like me and had the Windows Store disabled in my firewall, you will need to open that up until installation is complete. I was able to block the Store again from the firewall afterwards, and launch the app without accessing the Store again.
Since I already had the LoopBe1 virtual MIDI adapter installed on my PC, I enabled that output in Wotja21 and input to my DAW track. Playing back some cool sounds with my AAS Chromaphone 3 plugin hosted in my DAW.
Very atmospheric!
The download link takes you to the Windows Store. You can download and install the free Wotja21 Lite UWP (Universal Windows Platform) app without signing in to the store. If you are like me and had the Windows Store disabled in my firewall, you will need to open that up until installation is complete. I was able to block the Store again from the firewall afterwards, and launch the app without accessing the Store again.
Since I already had the LoopBe1 virtual MIDI adapter installed on my PC, I enabled that output in Wotja21 and input to my DAW track. Playing back some cool sounds with my AAS Chromaphone 3 plugin hosted in my DAW.
Very atmospheric!
Windows 10 and too many plugins
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 499 posts since 4 Jan, 2008
We've been busy working on finishing-off the next release (21.7) and we hope to be able to submit it next week.
Amongst other useful changes there are some totally AWESOME new additions coming in this release.
You can be excited - that's official.
Pete
Amongst other useful changes there are some totally AWESOME new additions coming in this release.
You can be excited - that's official.
Pete