Soundtoys Plugins still not resizable?!?! "there are no plans currently to implement resizable GUIs for our plug-ins"
- KVRAF
- 1843 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
They are currently working on vst3 versions and Apple silicon stuff : https://www.soundtoys.com/m1-capability/
With vst3 they could easily implement resizing. Curious to see what they'll do.
With vst3 they could easily implement resizing. Curious to see what they'll do.
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- KVRist
- 31 posts since 12 Sep, 2020
I'm 55 and my eyesight is not what it used to be. I demoed some of their stuff, I squinted and moved towards the screen more than a few times to read it and decided it wasn't worth it to demo any further. Kinda sucks because their stuff sounded great, but there are plenty of other companies that work with my old man eyes.
- KVRAF
- 2035 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Old news. They already released the beta, bundled with a native version of iLok Manager.dionenoid wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:33 pm They are currently working on vst3 versions and Apple silicon stuff : https://www.soundtoys.com/m1-capability/
With vst3 they could easily implement resizing. Curious to see what they'll do.
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- KVRAF
- 1843 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
But does it have resizing ?teilo wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:01 pmOld news. They already released the beta, bundled with a native version of iLok Manager.dionenoid wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:33 pm They are currently working on vst3 versions and Apple silicon stuff : https://www.soundtoys.com/m1-capability/
With vst3 they could easily implement resizing. Curious to see what they'll do.
The loudness war is over, loudness has won
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Soundtoys have been semi-abandonware for about 15 years now 
- KVRAF
- 4070 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
Yeah, at times it certainly seems that way at times. They have a very odd flow with their development. Between ST4 and 5 there was a long time of nothing. Then 5 came with the unexpected rack and lots of new modules.MogwaiBoy wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:29 am Soundtoys have been semi-abandonware for about 15 years now![]()
Now it seems we're back to periods of semi-silence again. I just wish they could add the reverb to the rack - that would be so damn perfect.
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- KVRist
- 272 posts since 18 Oct, 2003
In the last 15 years they've supported every OS update, every architecture change, released new products, are working on VST3 and another OS and architecture change at the moment (and possibly other things).MogwaiBoy wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:29 am Soundtoys have been semi-abandonware for about 15 years now![]()
What is the definition of "semi-abandonware"? Not releasing enough upgrades to satisfy people on forums?
- KVRAF
- 4070 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
Probably not something that one should take too much value in but in their latest newsletter one could read the following:
Even if you already own the full Soundtoys bundle, you can still participate by purchasing a Gift Card. Gift it to someone who loves Soundtoys, or keep it for the next release!
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- KVRAF
- 12481 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Yeah seriously! This isn't abandonware (or even semi) by any means.Broken wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:47 pmIn the last 15 years they've supported every OS update, every architecture change, released new products, are working on VST3 and another OS and architecture change at the moment (and possibly other things).MogwaiBoy wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:29 am Soundtoys have been semi-abandonware for about 15 years now![]()
What is the definition of "semi-abandonware"? Not releasing enough upgrades to satisfy people on forums?
Do I want to see new Soundtoys plugins with new GUI's, that are also resizable, with an expanded Rack that has modulation capabilities and parallel paths, along with built-in oversampling? Heck yeah! But that doesn't make Soundtoys abandonware. They fix bugs and support current OS's and hardware.
Note: if there wasn't an M1 beta out, I may have been more inclined to agree.
- KVRian
- 643 posts since 28 Oct, 2010
So VST3 was released a couple of months ago but can anyone confirm if the plugins can be resized?
https://www.soundtoys.com/soundtoys-for-vst3-is-here/
https://www.soundtoys.com/soundtoys-for-vst3-is-here/
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
It is probably time to look at specific sooundtoys alternatives that scale. It would be a good thread for discussion. There is no need to put up with guis that don’t scale if you really want that feature. There are so many excellent developers out there.
- KVRist
- 446 posts since 29 Apr, 2019
The VST3 format does not automagically make a plugin resizable, the code needs to be updated. If a plugin uses vector graphics, it should be trivial. If a plugin uses raster graphics, as Soundtoys do, it can be a heavy lift.
If the original codebase has lots of business logic directly woven into the UI code, which is sadly common practice in C++, and you need to make significant changes to a complex UI, you might as well make a new plugin.
If the original codebase has lots of business logic directly woven into the UI code, which is sadly common practice in C++, and you need to make significant changes to a complex UI, you might as well make a new plugin.
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- KVRist
- 97 posts since 8 Oct, 2011
I can confirm that they are NOT resizable and it makes them almost impossible for me to use on my 4K monitor with my crappy eyesight.pierb wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:41 pm So VST3 was released a couple of months ago but can anyone confirm if the plugins can be resized?
https://www.soundtoys.com/soundtoys-for-vst3-is-here/
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
I wish they would make them resizable, of course
But in the meantime, and on a Mac (which I guess many of the 4/5 K folks are using), Cmmd + scroll zooms the whole screen for me, so I can use my titchy plugins easily enough before going back to regular screen res.
But in the meantime, and on a Mac (which I guess many of the 4/5 K folks are using), Cmmd + scroll zooms the whole screen for me, so I can use my titchy plugins easily enough before going back to regular screen res.
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