Understanding Bazille

[ghostwhistler]

Well maybe but it refers to patches I don't have so for me it's not proving desperately instructive.

This may be an amazing synth, but I think it's probably too complex for me (YMMV) and I can't really jsutify buying something like this without being able to get the most out of it. There are some patches that I just cannot make head nor tail of. Some of them seem to include cables that lead nowhere (sequencer patch cabling into an oscillator that itself isn't connected to anything else...mindblown).

A good tutorial video that explains how all this is done would have been a godsend. There's no doubt the people making this stuff are exceptionally clever. But, from reading the instructional manual, I think they forget potential customers aren't that smart (not in my case ). That's a big turn off for me

[Robinrobo]

I found that the official manual does a good job explaining the functions and how to use them. The cookbook shows you how to be creative with these functions. Start with the manual.

[FAS122]

I found that the official manual does a good job explaining the functions and how to use them. The cookbook shows you how to be creative with these functions. Start with the manual.

I can vouch for this, cause u-he's manuals are fantastic. I didn't at all understand the function generators in Hive at first, but looking at the manual gave me all I needed to know.

[Howard]

(double post)

[Howard]

…from reading the instructional manual, I think they forget potential customers aren't that smart

Bazille was conceived as a "geek machine": Neither the product nor the user guide (!) are aimed at people who expect instant gratification.

[ghostwhistler]

…from reading the instructional manual, I think they forget potential customers aren't that smart

Bazille was conceived as a "geek machine": Neither the product nor the user guide (!) are aimed at people who expect instant gratification.

I didn't say anything instant gratification. This seems an unecessarily pointed remark

[Howard]

It takes a lot more time and effort to learn the ins and out of Bazille than e.g. Diva, which gives more instant gratification. Those who don't understand the Bazille user guide aren't trying hard enough.

(BTW I admit to being a bit "passive-aggressive" here, but it's better than being openly aggressive!)

[mholloway]

…from reading the instructional manual, I think they forget potential customers aren't that smart

Bazille was conceived as a "geek machine": Neither the product nor the user guide (!) are aimed at people who expect instant gratification.

I didn't say anything instant gratification. This seems an unecessarily pointed remark

Seems to me like a very necessarily honest remark!

He's not being pointed or rude, he's telling you the 100% plain truth. It was made for geeks. There was zero marketing for anyone else. That's it. You may not like it, you may have Business Advice for U-He,

If it's not for you, it's not for you, move along. If you're interested in challenging yourself, investing time + energy and learning something new...maybe it is for you, after all.

[Howard]

Re "sequencer patch cabling into an oscillator that itself isn't connected to anything else": See user guide, page 40 under "Envelope Triggering via Modulation Sequencer".

[FAS122]

…from reading the instructional manual, I think they forget potential customers aren't that smart

Bazille was conceived as a "geek machine": Neither the product nor the user guide (!) are aimed at people who expect instant gratification.

If our scale is "instant gratification" (like Hive) to "geek machine" (Bazille), where would you put Zebra2? It's easier than Bazille I'd think. This is just a curious question.

[ralfrobert]

…from reading the instructional manual, I think they forget potential customers aren't that smart

Bazille was conceived as a "geek machine": Neither the product nor the user guide (!) are aimed at people who expect instant gratification.

If our scale is "instant gratification" (like Hive) to "geek machine" (Bazille), where would you put Zebra2? It's easier than Bazille I'd think. This is just a curious question.

In Zebra, you decide how high the complexity is by adding modules. It is an excellent learning tool, because it kind of grows with you.

It was is difficult to answer the scale question: I think it is closer to Hive.

[FAS122]

…from reading the instructional manual, I think they forget potential customers aren't that smart

Bazille was conceived as a "geek machine": Neither the product nor the user guide (!) are aimed at people who expect instant gratification.

If our scale is "instant gratification" (like Hive) to "geek machine" (Bazille), where would you put Zebra2? It's easier than Bazille I'd think. This is just a curious question.

In Zebra, you decide how high the complexity is by adding modules. It is an excellent learning tool, because it kind of grows with you.

It was is difficult to answer the scale question: I think it is closer to Hive.

I guess you're right about how Zebra kind of "grows with you." I suppose we all started by adding a simple single oscillator/filter (I know I did) or something along those lines.

[ralfrobert]

One oscillator, a filter, FX to your liking. And you have your first moment of success.

[ralfrobert]

By the way, if you are searching for something easy that sounds great, look into ACE. This is an excellent learning tool, too, a bit modular, and produces fine sounds.

[Scrubbing Monkeys]

First. Down load and read the manual. Then pick an aspect. Oscillator, map generator, multiplier.....etc. and investigate it well. Re read the manual. Rinse and repeat. Then start to combine aspects. This is a great way to understand a basic synth as well as give you a taste of modular. As others have mentioned, The Cookbook PDF is a great resource. Take your time..it's a journey not a destination.