v17 beta : Regular install still possible ?

[FrettedSynth]

However, this makes it difficult to save backups of previous installers if you need them. Will there still be a way to get an installer for offline installation/archiving?

Was thinking of this also, have never connected my audio computer to the net. Without an offline installer I can never update any melda plugins past v16. Like mevla I wonder what will happen running on Linux?

[DarkStar]

nvm

[Frankie.T]

Melda could you please continue to provide the usual offline installer?
This is important for many people, and crucial for me.

Thanks

[sparella]

Melda could you please continue to provide the usual offline installer?
This is important for many people, and crucial for me.

Thanks

"For those without an internet connection, an offline mode for this installer will be available soon."

[mevla]

Just checked mails and I didn't find anything about beta. But maybe a "phased rollout" and some just got drawn to get a preview?

Depending on your email client, it can be, as it was the case here, that only the name ' Martin Linduška' will appear. The subject line is "17.00 beta". In other words nothing that squarely says 'this is from Melda Production'.

[mevla]

The basic question would be, why change something that works good in 2024 considering the following factors :

- how many (potential) customers are actually accessing the internet at speeds worthy of a 9600 bps modem and thus in dire need to have the breakdown of a single file into many selectable components ? What is the percentage of these (potential) customers ?

- how many (potential) customers are operating DAW workstations with a hard disk capacity worthy of circa 1995 era ? What is the percentage of these (potential) customers ?

- is Melda Production aiming at accessing 3rd world country markets where internet access could be extremely slow and expensive ? If so, please refine the Linux support and make it official as it can be useful for people running on pre-2000 hardware and storage capacities.

[mevla]

Ah, well in that case I apologize!

No harm done. I found it offensive qualifying me of a untrustworthy person able to break a contract (beta group membership) agreement but decided to not make a case out of it. Only a little, reflective of the reply, mention.

My concern was to be able to test the beta apps without the new online downloader and before an offline alternative is made available.

[Frankie.T]

Melda could you please continue to provide the usual offline installer?
This is important for many people, and crucial for me.

Thanks

"For those without an internet connection, an offline mode for this installer will be available soon."

Thank you very much for this info, i didn't found that quote, where is written? I'm very happy they will continue to provide an offline installer as always!

[gacleite]

Version 17 does not work on Macbook Pro Max (M3) with Sonoma 14.5, the interfaces don't load, spinning beach balls everywhere and warning messages. Already reported in the Beta group.

Can confirm this, doesnt work on Mac with Sonoma

[Sampleconstruct]

Version 17 does not work on Macbook Pro Max (M3) with Sonoma 14.5, the interfaces don't load, spinning beach balls everywhere and warning messages. Already reported in the Beta group.

Can confirm this, doesnt work on Mac with Sonoma

The vst3 versions in Cubase 13 Pro are also broken and online activation is not possible as the installer asks me to log in first but I am logged in already.

[FrettedSynth]

Melda could you please continue to provide the usual offline installer?
This is important for many people, and crucial for me.

Thanks

"For those without an internet connection, an offline mode for this installer will be available soon."

Good news, Thanks Melda

[Sampleconstruct]

Version 17 does not work on Macbook Pro Max (M3) with Sonoma 14.5, the interfaces don't load, spinning beach balls everywhere and warning messages. Already reported in the Beta group.

Can confirm this, doesnt work on Mac with Sonoma

The vst3 versions in Cubase 13 Pro are also broken and online activation is not possible as the installer asks me to log in first but I am logged in already.

This was a permission issue, I manually had to set permissions to Admin for the folder Library/Application Support/Melda Production
After that the interfaces loaded fine but I'm not getting any sound out of e.g. MSoundFactory.

[Sampleconstruct]

Version 17 does not work on Macbook Pro Max (M3) with Sonoma 14.5, the interfaces don't load, spinning beach balls everywhere and warning messages. Already reported in the Beta group.

Can confirm this, doesnt work on Mac with Sonoma

Fixing the permissions also fixed the problem in Logic

...but there is a problem in the MXXX preset browser (Active Presets, not devices), I only see e.g. one preset in a folder which contains 30 presets.

[MeldaProduction]

Sampleconstruct: Martin is investigating it, hopefully he'll figure it out soon. It all seems working on all computers here.

Mevla: There are several reasons
- Many newcomers were baffled by setup + downloader + activation in plugin
- Many people don't have a fast internet
- Automatic updates
- Easy adding/removing plugins
- Optimizing what needs to be installed
- Implementation for FL Cloud
...

[Frankie.T]

Sampleconstruct: Martin is investigating it, hopefully he'll figure it out soon. It all seems working on all computers here.

Mevla: There are several reasons
- Many newcomers were baffled by setup + downloader + activation in plugin
- Many people don't have a fast internet
- Automatic updates
- Easy adding/removing plugins
- Optimizing what needs to be installed
- Implementation for FL Cloud
...

But do you still provide an offline installer? I have nothing againts adding something different, but please continue to offer what you always offered, an offline installer and activation system please