Mackie dynamics plugisn quite impressive

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ttoz wrote:
chico.co.uk wrote:Jens is right. If you're using software compressors they simply cannot affect the signal before the clipping happens, it's impossible. Clipping occurs at the soundcard, when you supply a signal that's too hot. After that happens, the soundcard does it's job, it converts the signal from analogue to digital (clipping included), and once it's digital, the software compressor can then act on the data (the sound)

It is impossible for a software compressor to prevent clipping.
that's GREAT! that's not what i meant or what jens meant.
tbh that's exactly what I meant! ;-) :-)

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wait have you guys tried the buzroom dynamics? theyre just as good imho.

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ttoz wrote:
chico.co.uk wrote:Jens is right. If you're using software compressors they simply cannot affect the signal before the clipping happens, it's impossible. Clipping occurs at the soundcard, when you supply a signal that's too hot. After that happens, the soundcard does it's job, it converts the signal from analogue to digital (clipping included), and once it's digital, the software compressor can then act on the data (the sound)

It is impossible for a software compressor to prevent clipping.
that's GREAT! that's not what i meant or what jens meant.

it's NOT going to clip with a friggin hardware compressor/limiter, is it? BEFORE the soundcard input!
No, it won't with a hardware compressor. But you didn't mention you were using a hardware compressor. And Jens was clearly talking about software compressors ...
ttoz wrote:Oh, and in Logic, you CAN record destructively. there's a latency involved, but it works just like hardware.
And even in logic a software compressor is incapable of preventing clipping ...

Sorry, i think we maybe have crossed wires, was just trying to help
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"

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i was referring to the free buzroom dynamics ;)

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mandolarian wrote:Ok, you want to keep from getting overs. Yeah, gotta go outboard or just record in 24bit and set the "known" peaks to -15 to -12. But it's nice to have an outboard limiter there just in case.

It's not that much of a conundrum. Isn't the beauty of T that it runs on a Mac too? Tho some awesome VST's are PC only. Good luck with your dilemma.
This answers a question I've been having for awhile. To clarify: when you mean you're "setting the know peaks" do you mean you're physically monitoring your input level (ie trim/gain on a mic pre) to have the peaks hit those points? Or is there a way on the software side of things to "set the known peaks"? Thanks gents!
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Your soundcard driver/applet should have some sort of input metering. That is where you can watch for overs. You could also use T's input meters. Or you could be pre-prepared and run some tests thru your signal chain and relate the analog section metering to mirror your convertor/software meters. And then back off 3-6dB before pressing record!
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