Mackie dynamics plugisn quite impressive
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- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
Hey...wait a minute. Aren't you supposed to be a on plane back to Logic?
The short technical answer is: No you can't. T records the audio, raw from the convertor bitstream, then it applies the efx. However....
Just tried this quickly before T crashed (I blame PACE
) and the easiest was to just use the 'monitor mix' from my soundcard as the feed for another track. But there is the latency to deal with. Or use use TapeIt or other recorder.
However, these approaches are no different in result than leaving the effects in the track in question after the 'dry' recording and then rendering.
Is that you want to commit early and save the time of 'artistic' decisions? Or is it that you got this hot sound in your plugins and you're worried it can't be re-created in a fully automated computer controlled digital recording system?
The short technical answer is: No you can't. T records the audio, raw from the convertor bitstream, then it applies the efx. However....
Just tried this quickly before T crashed (I blame PACE
) and the easiest was to just use the 'monitor mix' from my soundcard as the feed for another track. But there is the latency to deal with. Or use use TapeIt or other recorder. However, these approaches are no different in result than leaving the effects in the track in question after the 'dry' recording and then rendering.
Is that you want to commit early and save the time of 'artistic' decisions? Or is it that you got this hot sound in your plugins and you're worried it can't be re-created in a fully automated computer controlled digital recording system?
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
Ok, you want to keep from getting overs. Yeah, gotta go outboard or just record in 24bit and set the "known" peaks to -15 to -12. But it's nice to have an outboard limiter there just in case.
It's not that much of a conundrum. Isn't the beauty of T that it runs on a Mac too? Tho some awesome VST's are PC only. Good luck with your dilemma.
It's not that much of a conundrum. Isn't the beauty of T that it runs on a Mac too? Tho some awesome VST's are PC only. Good luck with your dilemma.
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
I knew that you knew that I knew. But you knew that.
Will it cost so much to keep your winduhs box around? With the 2 machines and some cable and some clever software you could have lots of DSP available.
Will it cost so much to keep your winduhs box around? With the 2 machines and some cable and some clever software you could have lots of DSP available.
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- KVRist
- 54 posts since 30 Jun, 2004 from Seattle Area
If you're investing $10K, then T2 is certainly well within your budget even if you get Logic as well. Just my $0.02.
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- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
All right, let's support ttoz folks. We're up to $10,000.02
Keep it coming. If the BRAUNER VM1 Klaus Heyne Edition is on your must-buy list, then it's T1 NFR for you!
My $0.02 too.
New Total: $10,000.04
Throw in some inflationary language and we'll have an extra buck fifty for the cause.
Keep it coming. If the BRAUNER VM1 Klaus Heyne Edition is on your must-buy list, then it's T1 NFR for you!
My $0.02 too.
New Total: $10,000.04
Throw in some inflationary language and we'll have an extra buck fifty for the cause.
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- KVRAF
- 37519 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
What reverb? Is there a new one on the way?ttoz wrote: I am excited to see what the reverb will bring!
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- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
I have to agree with recording dry at 24 bit. The dynamic range is very large so recording with peaks at something like -12db (to allow headroom for those errant peaks) will still give you a low noise recording which should be superior in sound quality to one that is compressed at recording.
Now you can compress the dry signal to taste instead of neccesity.
Now you can compress the dry signal to taste instead of neccesity.
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
heh i havent tried mackie dynamics ... 'cause ive been using the buzroom comps. (grancomp3, grancomp) AWESOME.
ROnC
ROnC
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- KVRist
- 276 posts since 8 Feb, 2004 from France
I can only agree to this. Mackie Dynamics are the best plugins I have tried so far, excepting the Waves C1/C4. I first thought it was just cosmetics in T2 but I was wrong. I did some tests with them and they are extremely versatile from voice to drums.
On drums, they simply kick a** especially because of the included Softclip
All my previous songs have been "remixed" by changing the compressors inside and I have gained a lot of dynamics and presence.
THANK YOU MACKIE !
On drums, they simply kick a** especially because of the included Softclip
All my previous songs have been "remixed" by changing the compressors inside and I have gained a lot of dynamics and presence.
THANK YOU MACKIE !
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- KVRAF
- 25042 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
er... - it seems you're applying false logic here - if it would record with the comnpressor/limiter the result would be exactly the same as if you're rendering afterwards - if it clips it clips - it means your incoming signal is too high and if it is to high software-fx can't do something about this as they're applied after the signal arrives at the sequencer.ttoz wrote:
if teh file clips, to me it is always beyond repair. I often like to use a compressor/limiter on vocal tracks to control huge voices. However, that's ok, I can use outboard.
In other words: you're asking for something impossible.
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Jens is right. If you're using software compressors they simply cannot affect the signal before the clipping happens, it's impossible. Clipping occurs at the soundcard, when you supply a signal that's too hot. After that happens, the soundcard does it's job, it converts the signal from analogue to digital (clipping included), and once it's digital, the software compressor can then act on the data (the sound)
It is impossible for a software compressor to prevent clipping.
It is impossible for a software compressor to prevent clipping.
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"