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rectus_dominus wrote:I'm not really following this thread, so dont kick me, can I ask what's so great about Bazille's filters?
Haven't tried the Bazille alpha yet? If not, snag it and mess with different combinations of the LP, HP and BP outputs from the filters, patching them through each other, back into themselves, different amounts of gain for overdrive, etc. Bazille gets some of the most thick, weighty, ballsy analog-type sounds I've heard, before you even start messing with the FM and phase distortion.

If a reasonable amount of that filter character is there in the new filter additions for Zebra 2.5, it will likely be, for my taste, the best-sounding wavetable scanning synth on the planet (since I already like Bazille's filters better than the analog Curtis ones in my Microwave).
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Vectorman wrote:If a reasonable amount of that filter character is there in the new filter additions for Zebra 2.5, it will likely be, for my taste, the best-sounding wavetable scanning synth on the planet (since I already like Bazille's filters better than the analog Curtis ones in my Microwave).
The Zebra one is slightly rougher. While the lowpass outs in Bazille are taken of dry taps from the filter poles, the ones in Zebra's new XMF had to have tapped after another stage of distortion. Otherwise I couldn't have realized the 15 filter modes.

As a nice surprise I found a little tricksery that saves 15% of the cpu hunger of a single filter. I hope I can add that betrickstion back into Bazille.

Cheers,

;) Urs

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Urs wrote:
Vectorman wrote:If a reasonable amount of that filter character is there in the new filter additions for Zebra 2.5, it will likely be, for my taste, the best-sounding wavetable scanning synth on the planet (since I already like Bazille's filters better than the analog Curtis ones in my Microwave).
The Zebra one is slightly rougher. While the lowpass outs in Bazille are taken of dry taps from the filter poles, the ones in Zebra's new XMF had to have tapped after another stage of distortion. Otherwise I couldn't have realized the 15 filter modes.

As a nice surprise I found a little tricksery that saves 15% of the cpu hunger of a single filter. I hope I can add that betrickstion back into Bazille.

Cheers,

;) Urs
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Urs wrote:The Zebra one is slightly rougher.
:D

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Rougher sounds good to me. Could be exactly the thing to bump over the naysayers (you know, the "sounds to cold and clinical yadayada...").

Getting anxious about this release! Almost feels like getting a new product for free! (and it kinda is in a way, concidering the huge update, + zebrify).

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@Urs, excellent news, as ever. Next you'll be telling us that you've added bazille's PD oscillators to zebra ;)

on an unrelated note, what relation does runciter have to the vintage2 filter?

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the gui of the latest beta crashes also sometimes in the last FL Studio 8.5(Beta 5).

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I just hope Urs won't leave cables flipping out from Zebra :D
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:lol:

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suthnear wrote:@Urs, excellent news, as ever. Next you'll be telling us that you've added bazille's PD oscillators to zebra ;)

on an unrelated note, what relation does runciter have to the vintage2 filter?
Runciter has a totally different filter topology. It's based on the State Variable Filter, with some additions that George Bezerianos (think Noizware TriDirt) came up with, coupled with some tweaks I had to do...

;) Urs

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Just so you know:

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Not the final design (background is too grainy for my taste) and implementation, but...

Each XMF can now be 2 XMFs in either serial or parallel routing, at no further expense of cpu, while still maintaining stereo processing capability. The second filter within the XMF can be set to the same mode as the first, or to any other of the 15 different ones. In either serial or parallel modes, the Offset parameter spreads the cutoff of the two filters.

In "single" mode you only have one filter, as in the current XMF. Just like before, Offset then spreads the cutoff on left and right channel.

I'm also working on different saturation types. "XMF" is the same as in the current XMF, "analogue" is the same as in Bazille, "eco" is like analogue but saves cpu big time, and there'll probably be a "digital" one and maybe a "foldback" one. We'll see...

Filter types available:

LP4
BP2
BP4
HP2
BR2
LP3
LP2
LP1
HP3
HP1
HP3LP
HP2LP
BR2LP
AP3
AP3LP

The last two oens don't sound like allpasses at all, but they still do something interesting ;)

Cheers,

;) Urs

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Oh yes, "Bias" will be ditched. Didn't do much. I think I'll add something a bit more audible. Or so.

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Oh man, that's beautiful! XMF has been one of my favorite modules since it was added. Those are much welcomed improvements.

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Urs, I love how you constantly update us on the little things you're doing here and there. It's like a soap-opera for synth nerds (but without drama). "Ooh I wonder what Urs will add today?...."

But seriously, it's not often a developer keeps people so informed as to their progress. For some reason they usually like to keep things secret. I think your way gets people way more interested and keeps people coming back to check up on things. It's fun to follow the story lines! :D

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