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mystran wrote:
karrikuh wrote:No need for a proof, I believe you, thanks :). It's just against my understanding of divide down technology why two voices derived from a common master clock and spaced e.g. one octave apart would not have a perfect integer ratio of frequencies, so no beating. The only reason I could see for this not to be is some kind of bug in the microcontroller which determines the clock divider factors. I found two sources explaining the Juno DCO to some degree
If you divide frequencies from a master clock using separate counters, you only get perfect octaves if the counter value of the lower note is divisible by two. If it's not, then the counter value of the higher note will need to be rounded to the closest integer (eg lower note being 13 cycles, the octave up would be 6.5 but rounds down to 6).
Makes perfect sense, and is actually so simple ... Thank you!
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Bronto Scorpio wrote:First I didn't like the triple VCO but I'm slowly falling in love with it. It's awesome for some broken drone stuff :love:
Just one held note and some live tweaking:
http://www.bronto-scorpio-music.com/Mus ... broken.mp3

Cheers
Dennis
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im just killed be the delay time adjustments - i there will be something like a synced delay option added ...
its really hard to get a rolling delay ...

and 1 more i love that synth!

great work ... :D :love:
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Epitaph64 wrote:
Mogular wrote:
mystran wrote:The Sallen-Key is the opposite to the rest and sounds best to my ears with oscillators around 10-15% (can't imagine ever wanting over 25% for any purpose whatsoever).
This is a revelation, I had no idea that the volume of the oscillators was actually contributing to the filter drive in such a dramatic way.
MS20 oscillators at 25% produces all sorts of whistless and swoops from the filters that are completely lost when the oscillators are up full. Works well with the Moog ones as well.
Woah, I've been keeping them between 70 and 100%... Time to go back to my experimentation :)
Keep in mind that this same trick works with a whole bunch of other VSTi plugins and VST filter effects as well. :wink:

Cheers!
bManic
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Trancestorm wrote:im just killed be the delay time adjustments - i there will be something like a synced delay option added ... its really hard to get a rolling delay ...
The delay *is* synced - set integers. There is likely to be a non-syced option at some point.
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Howard wrote:
Trancestorm wrote:im just killed be the delay time adjustments - i there will be something like a synced delay option added ... its really hard to get a rolling delay ...
The delay *is* synced - set integers. There is likely to be a non-syced option at some point.
We'll see... I'd want to evaluate if the 3-tap delay is accepted at all - it may seem confusing at first.

What exactly are non-syncing delays needed for? (Honest question, I simply never used that myself)
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Urs wrote:
Howard wrote:
Trancestorm wrote:im just killed be the delay time adjustments - i there will be something like a synced delay option added ... its really hard to get a rolling delay ...
The delay *is* synced - set integers. There is likely to be a non-syced option at some point.
We'll see... I'd want to evaluate if the 3-tap delay is accepted at all - it may seem confusing at first.

What exactly are non-syncing delays needed for? (Honest question, I simply never used that myself)
Slap back delays for example. Or if I just want to delay one side of the signal slightly to get a bigger stereo image. It's annoying if these kind of presets sound different at different tempos. Or if I want to "tune" the delay to the beating of a drone etc. There are many uses for it :)

Cheers
Dennis
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Agreed with Dennis, there's definitely a need for non-synced delays.
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Share-it turned me down from buying Diva.
They couldn't confirm my order.
I'll try again tomorrow.
Bummer.
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mcnoone wrote:Share-it turned me down from buying Diva.
They couldn't confirm my order.
I'll try again tomorrow.
Bummer.
No worries... the beta won't stop working anytime soon :)
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They compared Diva to a Mopho?!? Why would they do that? It's perfectly clear that Diva hasn't got a dual oscillator with Subosc... Get your Minis out guys...
I did it because I could recreate one of my favourite patches from the mopho on the Diva and an exact emulation isn't important to me, for instance although I love the real moog saw the most I'd choose mopho's saw oscillator anytime over the Minimonsta/Arturia.

I wasn't trying too hard to make them sound the same either, with some equing I could make them sound more similar and few people would be able to A/B them blindfolded.

I just wanted to test if the sound grabbed me or not, more or less.

I haven't been able to recreate my favourite mopho patches before with other softies except for sampling the mopho which still is not the same, and I have around 10 softies or so.

It might be nitpicky for some but when it comes to Electro House where you have a bassline that carries the whole tune that "little extra" does matter, a weak bass is like playing Beatles without harmonies or ACDC on a Fender.
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chacka wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote:First I didn't like the triple VCO but I'm slowly falling in love with it. It's awesome for some broken drone stuff :love:
Just one held note and some live tweaking:
http://www.bronto-scorpio-music.com/Mus ... broken.mp3

Edit: Totally forgot about the audio demos thread. Sorry :oops:

Cheers
Dennis
Boah, Alter! :-o
Exactly what I said when I got this sound out of DIVA :hihi:
todd_r wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote:First I didn't like the triple VCO but I'm slowly falling in love with it. It's awesome for some broken drone stuff :love:
Just one held note and some live tweaking:
http://www.bronto-scorpio-music.com/Mus ... broken.mp3

Cheers
Dennis
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Thanks :)

Cheers
Dennis
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RiffsAndBeats wrote:
They compared Diva to a Mopho?!? Why would they do that? It's perfectly clear that Diva hasn't got a dual oscillator with Subosc... Get your Minis out guys...
I did it because I could recreate one of my favourite patches from the mopho on the Diva and an exact emulation isn't important to me, for instance although I love the real moog saw the most I'd choose mopho's saw oscillator anytime over the Minimonsta/Arturia.

I wasn't trying too hard to make them sound the same either, with some equing I could make them sound more similar and few people would be able to A/B them blindfolded.

I just wanted to test if the sound grabbed me or not, more or less.

I haven't been able to recreate my favourite mopho patches before with other softies except for sampling the mopho which still is not the same, and I have around 10 softies or so.

It might be nitpicky for some but when it comes to Electro House where you have a bassline that carries the whole tune that "little extra" does matter, a weak bass is like playing Beatles without harmonies or ACDC on a Fender.
Yeah, I posted my comment *before* I actually listened to your comparison, and I was expecting it to be unfair. But when I listened to it later, I found your example very balanced and educational.

I'm somehow surprised by the overall positive feedback. I was expecting many, many comparisons that are conducted to romanticise analogue gear.

I'm still on the fence about posting examples from the synths we've modelled, because it would be fairly easy for us to make them sound bad compared to Diva (and vice versa).
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Does anyone else think this synth shares some characteristics with the blofeld? it's definitely a triumph, the microtuning, filter and envelopes variations are spot on. i just feel like when i open up some of the filters all the way it becomes sharp in a way i've not heard analog do. classic u-he sound to my ears :)

GREAT synth though, i'm gonna have to upgrade my cpu i think....
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Urs wrote:What exactly are non-syncing delays needed for?
What Bronto said.

I very often use non-synced lfo's in patches and non-syncing delay would be useful in such cases to preserve the relationship between the two.
I'd want to evaluate if the 3-tap delay is accepted at all - it may seem confusing at first.

I have top admit I find it somewhat confusing - it seems that with the "center volume" down adjusting "center" acts as a cross feedback adjustment between the left and right sides, is that correct?

And I can't hear any noticeable difference between "flutter" at zero and at maximum.
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