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I'm somehow surprised by the overall positive feedback. I was expecting many, many comparisons that are conducted to romanticise analogue gear.

I'm still on the fence about posting examples from the synths we've modelled, because it would be fairly easy for us to make them sound bad compared to Diva (and vice versa).
Personally I use youtube the most to find out about new synths, it's fun and inspiring watching others tweaking synths and often you learn new "tricks" a synth can do or certain things it's especially good at.

You could debate the youtube quality but for me a good soundsource survives almost anything.

I think what FXpansion did with DCAM on youtube was great, especially the Strobe video where he has a bassline going with a beat and he pretty much goes through all the most useful knobs on the synth in a musical context, you get a very quick and honest presentation of what the synth is capable of.

Demo songs are inspiring too.

Whatever you do you would have to work pretty hard for Diva to fail.

I can live with the CPU usage even though I'm on an old laptop, I can render etc.

The only downside to me is that when you sit down with this instrument it sounds so good you want it to be able to do everything under the sun.

(I like the crispyness a lot and I'm glad the "muffled" parameter isn't on by default.)

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Urs, you have a bunch of Roland SHs in the studio, I believe. Are these going to find their way into Diva at some point?
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TechnoSlave wrote:Postscript:

Sales quickly die off as everybody realises that computers will not be powerful enough to run one instance of Diva on draft setting until 2015.

Users have to rent time on supercomputer clusters to render their projects offline in devine quality.
Hehehe, whatever you were smoking. :hihi: In the meantime I'm offering to you my "rendering farm" which is actually a 400€ laptop. It can run several instances of Diva in Divine mode.
So order quickly, as nightly time slots are getting rare while others get into it. Thank you for the business idea! :lol: :wink:

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Trancestorm wrote:lil promo testing video ...


looks like diva is great for chord sounds.
and its so dnam warm ... :love:

Wow, that sounds real good and I'm not just talking about Diva!

Club Ho

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chacka wrote:
TechnoSlave wrote:Postscript:

Sales quickly die off as everybody realises that computers will not be powerful enough to run one instance of Diva on draft setting until 2015.

Users have to rent time on supercomputer clusters to render their projects offline in devine quality.
Hehehe, whatever you were smoking. :hihi: In the meantime I'm offering to you my "rendering farm" which is actually a 400€ laptop. It can run several instances of Diva in Divine mode.
Are you talking about several instances of monophonic sounds or does it include polyphonic sounds too?
Even on my Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU a single pad preset could reach the maximum when you use long decay, long release and the multimode filter. At one pad sound using the multimode filter i could not even use the "great" quality when playing 4 or more notes at once. At Synth Brass sounds with short decay and release times this is much better.
I got no big problem runnung those presets in "fast" mode but if you tell you could run several instances at "Divine" quality you should maybe mention how many voices you could use at the same time. If i play a track with three voices at the first minutes and 3 at the second minute it also works for me... :wink:

you could test yourself with some Pad/Strings sounds which are available at the PatchLib now.


Ingo
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Ingonator wrote:
chacka wrote:
TechnoSlave wrote:Postscript:

Sales quickly die off as everybody realises that computers will not be powerful enough to run one instance of Diva on draft setting until 2015.

Users have to rent time on supercomputer clusters to render their projects offline in devine quality.
Hehehe, whatever you were smoking. :hihi: In the meantime I'm offering to you my "rendering farm" which is actually a 400€ laptop. It can run several instances of Diva in Divine mode.
Are you talking about several instances of monophonic sounds or does it include polyphonic sounds too?
Even on my Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU a single pad preset could reach the maximum when you use long decay, long release and the multimode filter. At one pad sound using the multimode filter i could not even use the "great" quality when playing 4 or more notes at once. At Synth Brass sounds with short decay and release times this is much better.
I got no big problem runnung those presets in "fast" mode but if you tell you could run several instances at "Divine" quality you should maybe mention how many voices you could use at the same time. If i play a track with three voices at the first minutes and 3 at the second minute it also works for me... :wink:

you could test yourself with some Pad/Strings sounds which are available at the PatchLib now.


Ingo

I have no trouble using 9 instances of Diva with multiple instances being polyphonic...






using freeze :lol:

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Some would say that u-he Diva is the most CPU-intensive virtual instrument...












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pdxindy wrote:

I have no trouble using 9 instances of Diva with multiple instances being polyphonic...






using freeze :lol:
:x :lol: :lol:

To use Diva for a full song i would have to do the same i guess...


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justin3am & geronimo,
Thank you for the help! I found the Diva patches also & got it working! Some nice sounds! I noticed the Roland style knobs & sliders, Moog style knobs. I assume Urs' Jupiter 8 influenced Diva? I wonder if Urs' Sequential Circuits Pro-One influenced Diva at all. Will be interesting to see what patches Howard Scarr will come up with Diva!
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aaron aardvark wrote:justin3am & geronimo,
Thank you for the help! I found the Diva patches also & got it working! Some nice sounds! I noticed the Roland style knobs & sliders, Moog style knobs. I assume Urs' Jupiter 8 influenced Diva? I wonder if Urs' Sequential Circuits Pro-One influenced Diva at all. Will be interesting to see what patches Howard Scarr will come up with Diva!
Those modules use Jupiter style knobs/sliders because they are modeled on Urs' Jupiter...
For a Jupiter 8 you need the Dual VCO1 (+ Triangle set to JP8 mode), the "Pre-LPF" HPF, the OTA Ladder filter at "Clean" mode ("Rough" is a Juno 60 filter) and the Analog ADSR envelopes.

You could check my presets at the PatchLib for some Jupiter presets:
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/diva.html

Same for the Moog: Triple OSCs, Transistor ladder filter and ADS envelopes.

AFAIK Urs did not use the Pro one so far.

Synths models which are currently in Diva should be: Minimoog, Jupiter 8, Jupiter 6, Juno 60, Alpha juno and Korg MS-20.


Ingo
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Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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Ingonator wrote:
chacka wrote:
TechnoSlave wrote:Postscript:

Sales quickly die off as everybody realises that computers will not be powerful enough to run one instance of Diva on draft setting until 2015.

Users have to rent time on supercomputer clusters to render their projects offline in devine quality.
Hehehe, whatever you were smoking. :hihi: In the meantime I'm offering to you my "rendering farm" which is actually a 400€ laptop. It can run several instances of Diva in Divine mode.
Are you talking about several instances of monophonic sounds or does it include polyphonic sounds too?
Chill, Ingo! :) For sure I'm not talking about full handed chords here. On the other hand the Diva CPU usage is not linearly predictable. Some modules used and some functions activated and CPU is way different.
I've got a hand full of Divas with monophonic sounds running in Divine setting. That's as extreme as it can get here. I love to freeze my lady. :hihi:

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chacka wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
chacka wrote:
TechnoSlave wrote:Postscript:

Sales quickly die off as everybody realises that computers will not be powerful enough to run one instance of Diva on draft setting until 2015.

Users have to rent time on supercomputer clusters to render their projects offline in devine quality.
Hehehe, whatever you were smoking. :hihi: In the meantime I'm offering to you my "rendering farm" which is actually a 400€ laptop. It can run several instances of Diva in Divine mode.
Are you talking about several instances of monophonic sounds or does it include polyphonic sounds too?
Chill, Ingo! :) For sure I'm not talking about full handed chords here. On the other hand the Diva CPU usage is not linearly predictable. Some modules used and some functions activated and CPU is way different.
I've got a hand full of Divas with monophonic sounds running in Divine setting. That's as extreme as it can get here. I love to freeze my lady. :hihi:
Hi,

no problem. I was just curíous if you also talked about polyphonic sounds.
As soon as i'll be rendering full songs and not just single presets i'll have to use freeze too i'm sure. :)


Ingo
Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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Ingonator wrote:Hi,

no problem. I was just curíous if you also talked about polyphonic sounds.
As soon as i'll be rendering full songs and not just single presets i'll have to use freeze too i'm sure. :)


Ingo
When the final version will be available I will make some tests to be able to predict better what features take what amount of CPU. I made several pad presets and some are rather light on CPU. But because of the CPU consumption I didn't make a lot of pads until now. :)

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I know it really doesn't belong on an analogue synthesizer, but having the ability to re-trigger oscillators would make this synth perfect for 'tight' baselines.
Maybe I'm the only one here, but I'd be very happy if such a function will be added with a future update.

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A re-trigger option is a definitive plus. So +1 from me too.
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