MuLab 5.0.39 (pre-release)
- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
So is this an option when just dragging in an audio loop? Or do I have to add a audio track then slice and create a new track for the sliced audio sequence to go? And is this in the manual, the steps I mean? If so I apologize, again!

- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
And... 3.0.7 is the latest version right?
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
A cliplauncher mux would be cool .. with timestretching of course
Then i would never ever look at live/bitwig again. If you bring it to mux, that would mean cubase users and whatever else host could be using it too..
- KVRian
- 1451 posts since 4 Oct, 2012 from Utah
Could add time stretch to MuSampla. That would be great!
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- KVRian
- 763 posts since 27 Sep, 2009 from Bristol UK
Oh no please don't ! plenty if not all DAWS out that use time-stretch sound like mechanical shit, glitch and shitcore was developed to cover that sound upCrackbaby wrote:A cliplauncher mux would be cool .. with timestretching of courseThen i would never ever look at live/bitwig again. If you bring it to mux, that would mean cubase users and whatever else host could be using it too..
IMHO of course
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- KVRAF
- 5062 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Timestretching will never be free of unwished artefacts, that's true of course...
But:
Especially on drums, there are many examples, where algorythms like zplane's elastique produce very convincing results compared to the same loop sliced...
The problem is in first case to have only a small region, in which I can slow a loop down without too much unwanted noise and I will never understand, why the loop makers do, what they did...
Fact is: there are much more problems to slow down a loop than to speed it up...
Take a look at the available payware: 90% of the stuff is recorded at 130bpm, 136, 138, 140...
People... are you crazy or just silly????
Nevertheless, especially loops with reverb tails, sustaining sounds benefit a lot from timestretching instead of slicing... slicing will always sound like sidechain compression effects, while actual timestretch algorythms produce very little artefacts when used in a moderate way...
Of course, a lot stretched down from 140bpm to 100 will always sound shitty...
But:
Especially on drums, there are many examples, where algorythms like zplane's elastique produce very convincing results compared to the same loop sliced...
The problem is in first case to have only a small region, in which I can slow a loop down without too much unwanted noise and I will never understand, why the loop makers do, what they did...
Fact is: there are much more problems to slow down a loop than to speed it up...
Take a look at the available payware: 90% of the stuff is recorded at 130bpm, 136, 138, 140...
People... are you crazy or just silly????
Nevertheless, especially loops with reverb tails, sustaining sounds benefit a lot from timestretching instead of slicing... slicing will always sound like sidechain compression effects, while actual timestretch algorythms produce very little artefacts when used in a moderate way...
Of course, a lot stretched down from 140bpm to 100 will always sound shitty...
- KVRAF
- 9091 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
+1mfkne wrote: - QuikQuak Copula - don't know this but Quikquak does excellent work
I've always been impressed by his work. And his plugins are very affordable too. He's a member here who posts regularly in the DSP forum by the way (DaveHoskins)
No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!
- KVRAF
- 3205 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
I've been out of the loop a little, so I hope I don't repeat known inquiries, but...
Any plans on making parameter automation sequences loop like note sequences (loop start/end)?
Any plans on adding the nice curve functions to parameter curves in note sequences?
Also, I noticed a few inconveniences that may be addressable...
In parameter automation sequence it would help a great deal to show existing values of the parameter at the time of the sequence as ghost line, maybe even a snap function to it.
Greater similarity in parameter sequences to hotkey functions of note sequences, such as holding ctrl on selected curve points to drag out a copy of them. Same also in parameter section of note sequences.
A little problem exists, when using copy/paste on curve points at finer grid sizes. For example, if you have two points on a gain curve, one up at 0 time and one down at 1/24th, select and copy them, paste them at 1/24th then at 2/24, then 3/24 and so on, you'll see that the internal rounding can confuse which point comes first. I hope that's understandable?
However, all in all there are some exciting improvements going on, thank you very much, Jo! A great way to start the new year!
Any plans on making parameter automation sequences loop like note sequences (loop start/end)?
Any plans on adding the nice curve functions to parameter curves in note sequences?
Also, I noticed a few inconveniences that may be addressable...
In parameter automation sequence it would help a great deal to show existing values of the parameter at the time of the sequence as ghost line, maybe even a snap function to it.
Greater similarity in parameter sequences to hotkey functions of note sequences, such as holding ctrl on selected curve points to drag out a copy of them. Same also in parameter section of note sequences.
A little problem exists, when using copy/paste on curve points at finer grid sizes. For example, if you have two points on a gain curve, one up at 0 time and one down at 1/24th, select and copy them, paste them at 1/24th then at 2/24, then 3/24 and so on, you'll see that the internal rounding can confuse which point comes first. I hope that's understandable?
However, all in all there are some exciting improvements going on, thank you very much, Jo! A great way to start the new year!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13862 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
http://www.mutools.com/info/docs/mulab/ ... mples.htmlDHR53 wrote:So is this an option when just dragging in an audio loop? Or do I have to add a audio track then slice and create a new track for the sliced audio sequence to go? And is this in the manual, the steps I mean? If so I apologize, again!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13862 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Yes there are several items on the wishlist about that. Future challenges.Taron wrote:Any plans on making parameter automation sequences loop like note sequences (loop start/end)? Any plans on adding the nice curve functions to parameter curves in note sequences?
Also thanks for your other feedback, taken relevant notes.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13862 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Can you send me a little session + instructions to repeat this?Taron wrote:A little problem exists, when using copy/paste on curve points at finer grid sizes. For example, if you have two points on a gain curve, one up at 0 time and one down at 1/24th, select and copy them, paste them at 1/24th then at 2/24, then 3/24 and so on, you'll see that the internal rounding can confuse which point comes first. I hope that's understandable?
- KVRAF
- 3205 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Alright, I was sending you a demo session with just a parameter sequence via email...
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13862 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13862 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
General answer: There will come more YouTube movies yes.miquelmatas wrote:Will you Youtube demo that loops behaviour?
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 25 Feb, 2004 from Andorra
Great!mutools wrote:General answer: There will come more YouTube movies yes.miquelmatas wrote:Will you Youtube demo that loops behaviour?
