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deastman · Post by **deastman** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:57 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
wagtunes wrote:It boggles my mind how some people don't understand why the Jump intro is iconic. And for me to try to explain it would be a total waste of my time.
The song became famous, hence the intro became the famous, hence the synth sound became famous.
Few songs have intros as such, thus they always strike out, like with Foreigner's (or rather Thomas Dolby's) famous intro on I've been waiting for a girl like you.

Wait, Thomas Dolby played on that Foreigner song? I had no idea! Mind=blown.

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:17 pm

I hate Foreigner. Ok hate is a harsh word. I hate Foreigner.

So, how DO you get that Van Halen "Jump" sound?

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:31 pm

deastman wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:
wagtunes wrote:It boggles my mind how some people don't understand why the Jump intro is iconic. And for me to try to explain it would be a total waste of my time.
The song became famous, hence the intro became the famous, hence the synth sound became famous.
Few songs have intros as such, thus they always strike out, like with Foreigner's (or rather Thomas Dolby's) famous intro on I've been waiting for a girl like you.
Wait, Thomas Dolby played on that Foreigner song? I had no idea! Mind=blown.

He played all of the keyboard parts on Foreigner 4. He also played keys on Def Leppard's Pyromania album (under a different alias).

godly · Post by **godly** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:41 pm

Also a saw sound, but with 7th and some distortion
https://soundcloud.com/sven-godlike/god ... -bank-rock

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:35 pm

That is pretty far from the thread topic sound.

Scrubbing Monkeys · Post by **Scrubbing Monkeys** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:37 pm

Cant forget the hotrodded Marshall amp sim behind whatever synth you use.

ls1xxx · Post by **ls1xxx** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:43 pm

Sammy was better!

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:50 pm

I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:59 pm

wagtunes wrote:I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"

Some people are just like that.

They would hate J.S. Bach - Sonata and Fugue in D minor, just because it is so popular...

quantum7 · Post by **quantum7** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:29 pm

Mutant wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"
Some people are just like that.
They would hate J.S. Bach - Sonata and Fugue in D minor, just because it is so popular...

Anyone here who would hate the Master's D minor Fuge is an obvious musical charlaran!!!!! Just my personal opinion, of course. LOL

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:01 pm

Mutant wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"
Some people are just like that.
They would hate J.S. Bach - Sonata and Fugue in D minor, just because it is so popular...

Nonsense, you're projecting. People hate it because as far as synth music goes it simply wasn't new or interesting in any way and comes across as either an attempt to remain relevant or a flirtation with a new toy. The song was really only popular because Van Halen was popular.

By 1984 new wave and synthpop had a deep foothold and I quite remember at the time that people who were very much into new wave, and had been so for years, laughed at Eddie's flirtation with synthesizers. His attempt is as hamfisted as that kid who always played smoke on the water in music stores. It was pretty obvious that he had just discovered this new thing, like your grandmother suddenly becoming a rapper. Compared to efforts by established synthpop and newwave artists at the time it simply sounds clumsy and stupid. It's exactly what you'd expect from the Beavis and Butthead of rock and roll. Nobody denied EVH's talent on guitar, but those few clunky chords on a synthesizer preset are not the synth equivalent regardless of how many ditzy teenage girls suddenly discovered that they now liked synthesizers.

It's pretty obvious that it's a basic open filter sound on a contemporary synth of the day so I have no idea why people are fascinated with it. The masses that liked the song at the time will be convinced by virtually anything when you play along to their drunken pseudo-dancing cum mating ritual.

Essentially, for many, Jump is the synth equivalent to this, which, judging by the sound of the crowd, is also pretty popular.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:09 pm

Mutant wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"
Some people are just like that.
They would hate J.S. Bach - Sonata and Fugue in D minor, just because it is so popular...

It's Tocatta and Fugue (not Sonata)...

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:14 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
Mutant wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"
Some people are just like that.
They would hate J.S. Bach - Sonata and Fugue in D minor, just because it is so popular...
Nonsense, you're projecting. People hate it because as far as synth music goes it simply wasn't new or interesting in any way and comes across as either an attempt to remain relevant or a flirtation with a new toy. The song was really only popular because Van Halen was popular.

By 1984 new wave and synthpop had a deep foothold and I quite remember at the time that people who were very much into new wave, and had been so for years, laughed at Eddie's flirtation with synthesizers. His attempt is as hamfisted as that kid who always played smoke on the water in music stores. It was pretty obvious that he had just discovered this new thing, like your grandmother suddenly becoming a rapper. Compared to efforts by established synthpop and newwave artists at the time it simply sounds clumsy and stupid. It's exactly what you'd expect from the Beavis and Butthead of rock and roll. Nobody denied EVH's talent on guitar, but those few clunky chords on a synthesizer preset are not the synth equivalent regardless of how many ditzy teenage girls suddenly discovered that they now liked synthesizers.

It's pretty obvious that it's a basic open filter sound on a contemporary synth of the day so I have no idea why people are fascinated with it. The masses that liked the song at the time will be convinced by virtually anything when you play along to their drunken pseudo-dancing cum mating ritual.

Essentially, for many, Jump is the synth equivalent to this, which, judging by the sound of the crowd, is also pretty popular.

Well, I guess I'm just a simple idiot because I liked it. I thought it was catchy (the riff itself) and the song itself cool. In fact I used to make my own surveys back then like WABC (yes, I was a real nerd) and "Jump" was my 14th favorite song of 1984.

However, THIS "Jump" was my 4th favorite song of the year.

My Top 10 Of 1984

1. If You're Not Here By My Side - Menudo
2. My Oh My - Slade
3. Pipes Of Peace - Paul McCartney
4. Jump (For My Love) - Pointer Sisters
5. Valotte - Julian Lennon
6. Radio Ga Ga - Queen
7. All Through The Night - Cyndi Lauper
8. Windows And Walls - Dan Fogelberg
9. Theme From Terms Of Endearment - Michael Gore
10. Hello - Lionel Richie

Plenty there for people to make fun of.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:34 pm

fmr wrote:
Mutant wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"
Some people are just like that.
They would hate J.S. Bach - Sonata and Fugue in D minor, just because it is so popular...
It's Tocatta and Fugue (not Sonata)...

And i of course knew that.

At my age sometimes you think something, but write something else...

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:37 pm

Mutant wrote:
fmr wrote:
Mutant wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I don't understand all the hatred of "Jump"
Some people are just like that.
They would hate J.S. Bach - Sonata and Fugue in D minor, just because it is so popular...
It's Tocatta and Fugue (not Sonata)...
And i of course knew that.
At my age sometimes you think something, but write something else...

How do I get Van Halen "Jump" sound?