)...The long DIVA thread
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- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
That's really a shame, digital can be so limiting at times (bad pun )...
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Hahaha... I do think that we're pretty close though... at least for "musical" uses...EvilDragon wrote:That's really a shame, digital can be so limiting at times (bad pun
(I might check it again... don't think it was unbearably off...)
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- KVRAF
- 13124 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Personally, I think the Oscillator and Filter FM in Diva sounds amazing. It's probably my favorite part of the synth. Sure, my analog oscs hold together a bit better with extreme FM depth but you know how I love me some tasty artifacts.Urs wrote:Aliasing.olikana wrote:a technical question for urs or any of the devs.
do coding difficulties still exist in software that make cross modulation very difficult to achieve with 100% like analog results?
is it still aliasiing the problem or there's more?
i've yet to find a soft synth that give me full satisfaction in cross modulation...so far is the only aspect of diva that is not stellar.
(but not having any moog with cross mod or jupiter8 i cannot point the finger at anything with certainty... )
The oscillator fm in the Minimoog is rather subtle. We're talking a range of +/- an octave and a bit at max, + about an octave with square wave master. Not quite what you'd expect for analogue fm. No big deal but also not a big feature IMHO.
The complete opposite in a Jupiter. I'd say +/- 4 octaves maybe. No go for plugin land yet without considerable artifacts...
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- KVRist
- 248 posts since 3 May, 2011
Gosh darn aliasing.
If you bandlimit the oscillators between modulation points, that will affect the FM itself, right?
The filter FM is the thing I like most about Diva so far. The general thickness and choruses are #2 and #3.
If you bandlimit the oscillators between modulation points, that will affect the FM itself, right?
The filter FM is the thing I like most about Diva so far. The general thickness and choruses are #2 and #3.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
The bandpass filter sounds pretty tight or thin, not much audio passing through. Is it supposed to be like that? No critique if so, just interested 
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
My likesryandfl wrote: *snip*
The filter FM is the thing I like most about Diva so far. The general thickness and choruses are #2 and #3.
#1 They/it sounds like early goa before access virus!
#2 So few controls, so much sound
#3 My search for "analogue" is over.
My dislikes
#1 My poor fingers never get any rest.. PAIN
#2 The rest of my synths and effects must now keep the same standard (if possible)
#3 My dog stares at me
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- Banned
- 771 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from Ableton Suite 9 and Reaper
that is so true! its simple and it sounds like some old trance/goa stuff.Crackbaby wrote:My likesryandfl wrote: *snip*
The filter FM is the thing I like most about Diva so far. The general thickness and choruses are #2 and #3.
#1 They/it sounds like early goa before access virus!
#2 So few controls, so much sound
#3 My search for "analogue" is over.
really like the sound of the basslines i did - that was what i ever looked for.
and yh u can really get something different from todays virus sounds ...
room for more unique sounds!
cant wait for the new revision!
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- KVRist
- 30 posts since 26 Nov, 2008 from Bristol, UK
I'm dabbling with Diva in Logic. Sounds great but I have come across a couple of issues.
The oscillator octave switch can be reluctant to change position.
Its crashed a couple of times on creating a new instrument.
The create new duplicate channel does something strange and creates two appears to be two midi channels that are connected (changing one diva GUI changes both and soloing the channel solos both channels) while other synths create a completely separate but identical channel strip. Its not a problem if a completely new channel is created then Diva selected as the synth.
I'm running Logic 9.1.5 on an iMac.
Cheers
The oscillator octave switch can be reluctant to change position.
Its crashed a couple of times on creating a new instrument.
The create new duplicate channel does something strange and creates two appears to be two midi channels that are connected (changing one diva GUI changes both and soloing the channel solos both channels) while other synths create a completely separate but identical channel strip. Its not a problem if a completely new channel is created then Diva selected as the synth.
I'm running Logic 9.1.5 on an iMac.
Cheers
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Eeek. Can you send me your Logic.crash.log? urs@u-he.comFluffbomb wrote:I'm dabbling with Diva in Logic. Sounds great but I have come across a couple of issues.
The oscillator octave switch can be reluctant to change position.
Its crashed a couple of times on creating a new instrument.
The create new duplicate channel does something strange and creates two appears to be two midi channels that are connected (changing one diva GUI changes both and soloing the channel solos both channels) while other synths create a completely separate but identical channel strip. Its not a problem if a completely new channel is created then Diva selected as the synth.
I'm running Logic 9.1.5 on an iMac.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9091 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
Yes, first I had some difficulties with that too. But then I noticed that I didn't have to "grab" the switch with the mouse and pull it left or right, but you have to pull it up or down to change switch position to left or right.Fluffbomb wrote: The oscillator octave switch can be reluctant to change position.
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Interesting... the actual control object is a knob, so I thought that the usage is obvious. However, the range is only half way, thus rather horizontal... hmmm... must think about that...Nielzie wrote:Yes, first I had some difficulties with that too. But then I noticed that I didn't have to "grab" the switch with the mouse and pull it left or right, but you have to pull it up or down to change switch position to left or right.Fluffbomb wrote: The oscillator octave switch can be reluctant to change position.
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- KVRAF
- 1736 posts since 19 May, 2006 from Nomadic (Chicago and San Francisco mostly)
Edit: Nevermind! 
noise and beats: Negutyv Xeiro do people actually click these?
gearlust: Roland JP-8000, too much/not enough eurorack
machinecode by: u-he, Bitwig, Fabfilter, NI, et al
gearlust: Roland JP-8000, too much/not enough eurorack
machinecode by: u-he, Bitwig, Fabfilter, NI, et al
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 26 May, 2004
Concerning Minimoog glide with VCA Release On: I believe Minimoog glide stops gliding if all keys are released. And if a key is pressed again, glide resumes from the pitch where it left off. Diva's behavior of automatically gliding to the target pitch with all keys released seems too computerish.
I reckon Diva's Glide section is a master function for all its synth, so maybe it is correct behavior for Jupiter and Korg. And overall, not a big deal anyway. But I always liked the Mini's glidus-interruptus hanging pitch thing.
I reckon Diva's Glide section is a master function for all its synth, so maybe it is correct behavior for Jupiter and Korg. And overall, not a big deal anyway. But I always liked the Mini's glidus-interruptus hanging pitch thing.
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
(uhm, I just checked and think that DIVA *does* interupt glide once no key is pressed...)
Wait... you mean during release? - If no key is pressed, the glide "stops" even though the release phase of the voice is heard?
Wait... you mean during release? - If no key is pressed, the glide "stops" even though the release phase of the voice is heard?