T-RackS 5 (5.0.1 update,information about free CS version, release date countdown added)

[Harry_HH]

This doesn't sound bad.
One question concerning the TR 5 audio mastering feature: I didn't see any mention, if its capable doing wav->mp3 conversions, with different codex?

Hi, MP3 export will not be available in T-RackS 5.

OK. There's one development area in your list, for the next update, especially since you market the TR 5 as a mastering tool.

[musicalwarmth812]

Not understanding this talk about a new audio engine or improved quality on the processors. My understanding, regarding the processors you already own, will sound exactly the same, and the only improvements are the UI (which are nice by the way, save the removal of the T Rex). Am I misunderstanding something here?

[musicalwarmth812]

This doesn't sound bad.
One question concerning the TR 5 audio mastering feature: I didn't see any mention, if its capable doing wav->mp3 conversions, with different codex?

Hi, MP3 export will not be available in T-RackS 5.

OK. There's one development area in your list, for the next update, especially since you market the TR 5 as a mastering tool.

You're dreaming dude. No mp3 export, no Redbook compliance, burning - this will most likely not be implemented in an update, ever.

[Harry_HH]

Wrong quote

[Harry_HH]

This doesn't sound bad.
One question concerning the TR 5 audio mastering feature: I didn't see any mention, if its capable doing wav->mp3 conversions, with different codex?

Hi, MP3 export will not be available in T-RackS 5.

OK. There's one development area in your list, for the next update, especially since you market the TR 5 as a mastering tool.

You're dreaming dude. No mp3 export, no Redbook compliance, burning - this will most likely not be implemented in an update, ever.

Yes, I've got a dream...(dude)

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Sorry to bug you Peter, but could you comment on these questions? I think that the answers would remove some (of my) confusion.

Ok, picture this: say I have the T-RackS Grand Bundle (17 processors, plus metering) and purchase T-RackS 5 $99.99 deal (4 new processors, plus metering).

OK, let's do this.

Q1: Are the T-RackS plug-ins and the T-RackS 5 plug-ins completely separate?

Yes.

Q2: Is the T-RackS 5 standalone / "plug-in suite" the descendent of T-RackS Custom Shop standalone and plug-in?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. T-RackS 5 standalone is a complete overhaul with many more features and taking advantage of the new audio engine, better editing and album construction features, etc.

Q3: How do I get my 17 T-RackS processors to apprear in T-Rack 5? "Restore my Gear" or similar?

Your registered plugins should show there after you install and authorize. If not, the "Restore my Gear" will make sure you have access to everything.

Q4: Do I then have, as single, separate plug-ins the following?
-- the original T-RackS Grand processors (dinosaur GUI, not resizeable),
-- the 4 new processors (no dinosaur, resizeable),
-- the T-Racks 5 equivalents of my original T-RackS Grand processors (no dinosaur, resizeable).

Yes, yes, and yes.

Q5: And
-- the 17 original T-RackS Grand processors available in T-RackS Custom Shop,
-- the 17+4 processors available in T-RackS 5 standalone and plug-in suite.

You would have access to the original processors in T-RackS 4 standalone/Custom Shop and yes you'd have access to the 17+4 in T-RackS 5 standalone and suite.

Q6: Will the 4 new processors run in T-RackS Custom Shop (or only in T-RackS 5)?

There will be a T-RackS Custom Shop (free version) with features/limitations TBD. While it should work similar to how it does currently, details will be available when this CS version is imminent/available.

Q7: Will any further new processors run in T-RackS Custom Shop (or only in T-RackS 5)?

T-RackS 5 will be the new version and audio engine upon which future T-RackS plugins will be built, but see Q6 with regard to specifics about a CS version.

Q8: Is the Shopping Cart icon in the bottom-right corner of the T-RackS 5 GUI the (eventual) link to the Custom Shop?

That should link to Custom Shop, yes.

Q9: Does the new audio engine apply only to the T-RackS 5 standalone or does it apply to the T-RackS 5 plug-in suite and the plug-ins too?

The new audio engine improvements apply to both, where appropriate (for example where oversampling improvements would give actual benefit, it will affect both standalone and single plugins).

Q10: From the videos it seems that the T-RackS 5 single plug-ins can all be resized; can they be resized when in the T-RackS 5 standalone / plug-in suite?

The Standalone GUI can be resized, as well as areas (including the plugin GUI) within the Standalone GUI. You can see some of this in the following video:

Phew!

Indeed!

[Harry_HH]

Not understanding this talk about a new audio engine or improved quality on the processors. My understanding, regarding the processors you already own, will sound exactly the same, and the only improvements are the UI (which are nice by the way, save the removal of the T Rex). Am I misunderstanding something here?

Read the TR specs. But as in many cases, hearing the difference in this level of audio processing, requires really good speakers, treated room, different sample-cases etc. Its an improvement for a long time perspective. And of course, its marketing, too.

[DarkStar]

@ Peter - good answers, thank you.

[fmr]

Not understanding this talk about a new audio engine or improved quality on the processors. My understanding, regarding the processors you already own, will sound exactly the same, and the only improvements are the UI (which are nice by the way, save the removal of the T Rex). Am I misunderstanding something here?

Read the TR specs. But as in many cases, hearing the difference in this level of audio processing, requires really good speakers, treated room, different sample-cases etc. Its an improvement for a long time perspective. And of course, its marketing, too.

AFAIU the "new audio engine or improved quality on the processors" is just and only when they are running inside T-Racks 5 shell/host. When they are running as singles inside any DAW, we will have a new GUI, but that's it. I hope Peter can confirm this once and for all with a simple YES/NO, but he said repeatedly that they weren't re-coded, therefore, how could they sound better when running as single plug-ins?

And we still don't know if the ones built-in in T-Racks 5 (the 5 old ones) were re-coded or not.

The same goes to where we should wait for a possible upgrade price or not.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Not understanding this talk about a new audio engine or improved quality on the processors. My understanding, regarding the processors you already own, will sound exactly the same, and the only improvements are the UI (which are nice by the way, save the removal of the T Rex). Am I misunderstanding something here?

Read the TR specs. But as in many cases, hearing the difference in this level of audio processing, requires really good speakers, treated room, different sample-cases etc. Its an improvement for a long time perspective. And of course, its marketing, too.

AFAIU the "new audio engine or improved quality on the processors" is just and only when they are running inside T-Racks 5 shell/host. When they are running as singles inside any DAW, we will have a new GUI, but that's it. I hope Peter can confirm this once and for all with a simple YES/NO, but he said repeatedly that they weren't re-coded, therefore, how could they sound better when running as single plug-ins?

And we still don't know if the ones built-in in T-Racks 5 (the 5 old ones) were re-coded or not.

See my answer to Q9 in DarkStar's list.

Edit for clarity - As singles, don't expect miracles but some sonic improvement in some cases. Also, using the v5 plug-ins instead of the v4 give a series of other advantages in addition to sound quality. They’re more integrated in today’s DAWs, can be resized to be more readable, and are completely re-coded from ground up on the UI side, meaning more usability, quality, and being more future-proof.

And previous plugins were not re-coded except for the GUI. However they too will benefit from audio improvements to T-RackS 5 as mentioned above in Q9 (improved oversampling being a key way, where applicable).

Edit 2 - The pricing options are available on our site, those who already have T-RackS can use JamPoints to further reduce the 99.99 pre-order price by up to 30%.

[fmr]

AFAIU the "new audio engine or improved quality on the processors" is just and only when they are running inside T-Racks 5 shell/host. When they are running as singles inside any DAW, we will have a new GUI, but that's it. I hope Peter can confirm this once and for all with a simple YES/NO, but he said repeatedly that they weren't re-coded, therefore, how could they sound better when running as single plug-ins?

And we still don't know if the ones built-in in T-Racks 5 (the 5 old ones) were re-coded or not.

See my answer to Q9 in DarkStar's list.

And previous plugins were not re-coded except for the GUI. However they too will benefit from audio improvements to T-RackS 5 as mentioned above in Q9 (improved oversampling being a key way, where applicable).

Your answer was: "The new audio engine improvements apply to both, where appropriate (for example where oversampling improvements would give actual benefit, it will affect both standalone and single plugins)."

This is as vague as anything else - Do they sound different when used AS SINGLES inside a DAW - YES or NO?

Sorry, but first you say they weren't re-coded, then you say the new new audio engine improvements apply to both. Were they re-coded or not?

The "improved oversampling" works just inside T-Racks 5 or independently when they are running on their own too?

EDIT: I saw you edited your answer while I was writing mine. So, we can conclude that the benefits are in the GUI side. As I said, I think I'll upgrade, nevertheless, since the deal is not bad, although I still think that I, as a T-Racks user, am being neglected, and treated as any other user. I also still think that an upgrade offer should be in place, as is usual when a new version comes out for an existing product.

[Fleer]

I do believe this pricing is fine. Sure it could be better, but consider people having some or lots of T-RackS plugins, even up to owning MAX, well, they can all upgrade for $70 and get those four new plugins in the process. That's $15 each and $10 for the enhanced metering. Not bad at all. And if you don't want those four newbies, you can upgrade for free with the CS version, that at least gives you the new engine and GUI.
For free.

[zvenx]

This is a perfect illustration. In the first bold was the question.
Was the answer a simple yes or no?
No it wasn't....... Peter you went on and on with extraneous info to the question and the desired format of the poster.
Jesus Christ, so after reading all the extra extra stuff you wrote and didn't directly answer.
the answer is NO!!!
see how simple that was? and why a faq is necessary?

You could have simple said, "fmr, no, the coding on the was on the Gui Side only", but you went around the world twice and never really said that in simple words and in so much words beyond reading between the lines. sigh.

Not understanding this talk about a new audio engine or improved quality on the processors. My understanding, regarding the processors you already own, will sound exactly the same, and the only improvements are the UI (which are nice by the way, save the removal of the T Rex). Am I misunderstanding something here?

Read the TR specs. But as in many cases, hearing the difference in this level of audio processing, requires really good speakers, treated room, different sample-cases etc. Its an improvement for a long time perspective. And of course, its marketing, too.

AFAIU the "new audio engine or improved quality on the processors" is just and only when they are running inside T-Racks 5 shell/host. When they are running as singles inside any DAW, we will have a new GUI, but that's it. I hope Peter can confirm this once and for all with a simple YES/NO, but he said repeatedly that they weren't re-coded, therefore, how could they sound better when running as single plug-ins?

And we still don't know if the ones built-in in T-Racks 5 (the 5 old ones) were re-coded or not.

See my answer to Q9 in DarkStar's list.

Edit for clarity - As singles, don't expect miracles but some sonic improvement in some cases. Also, using the v5 plug-ins instead of the v4 give a series of other advantages in addition to sound quality. They’re more integrated in today’s DAWs, can be resized to be more readable, and are completely re-coded from ground up on the UI side, meaning more usability, quality, and being more future-proof.

And previous plugins were not re-coded except for the GUI. However they too will benefit from audio improvements to T-RackS 5 as mentioned above in Q9 (improved oversampling being a key way, where applicable).

Edit 2 - The pricing options are available on our site, those who already have T-RackS can use JamPoints to further reduce the 99.99 pre-order price by up to 30%.

[zvenx]

edit: double post.
rsp

[Burillo]

the answer clearly isn't no. he clearly said, on multiple occasions, that some plugins may receive sonic improvements due to reworked oversampling. why are you so hell bent on ignoring something that is clearly stated? and why don't i have such problems? am i that smart? am i a mind reader?