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[e@rs]

Is it me or MorphoX's knobs and sliders respond a bit slow to mouse dragging?

Yeah , it's a slight latency when it has to compute a new waveform.

I doubt it has to do with what you said. It just happens all the time.

[macmuse]

i still think Spectral is so worth it! even if you are not sound designing the presets are nice and can be changed in a fly!

im still unsure if i should get MorphoX (i think avenger is enough there for me) and/or CrX4.

Spectral and CRX4 are the best of the bunch, MorphoX is IMO a bit naff to be honest

How so, in regard to what?

[wagtunes]

Some stuff I did with Spectral

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... ew-patches

[wickfut]

How so, in regard to what?

in regards to other synths available currently.

Spectral and CRX4 are up there with the best while MorphoX doesn't do much that excites me. After a good play with it last night the feeling was that it wouldn't be used again and it'll just sit in my VST collection rather than be a staple of what I go to when I need a sound.

The main "thing" this synth does is morph between 2 different sounds in a preset. But the whole thing is flawed as the only way to control the morph is manually with the mod wheel. The synth engine is a limited 2 osc synth with spectral waveforms and FM , the filter is crap and the effects section is limited, so the sounds by themselves are pretty standard. The interesting sounds are made when you use the morph to gradually shift between different types of sounds, but you can't set up a global LFO or envelope to make the sound evolve from one to the other so unless you want to go mad with mod wheel automation the whole thing is pointless.

[BlackWinny]

Spectral is incredibly good in Ambient pads and Chillout works.

Excellent also for dark atmospheres and cinematic drones.

Excellent also to reproduce bells and keys and plucked strings.

Awesome !

I'm demoing it (I had planned to purchase it within the week anyway) and the more I play around with it the more I love it.

[BlackWinny]

Ingo, you who are a specialist in the brass sounds, how do you compare it to other tools (vintage or not) in that type of sounds?

[Ingonator]

Ingo, you who are a specialist in the brass sounds, how do you compare it to other tools (vintage or not) in that type of sounds?

Hi,

in my demo just posted at the previous page i used a layer of a Bell and a pad sound included with my own factory presets for Spectral but i also created two Brass sounds for the factory content called "iw 60dB Horn" and "iw Bellic Horn".

For "iw 60dB Horn" with the drawable filter in Spectral i created a 60dB/oct LPF that is not found in an hardware synth taht way and teh result sounds really nice IMO.

The patch ""iw Bellic Horn" used a comparable Horn sound but the sound is switched with a Bell sound and back to a Horn each time you press a new note. This is done using a single Osc and using the "Alternate" mod source to modulate the "Wave Mix" for Osc 1.

Overall i would mostly prefer something like e.g. The Legend for Brass sounds (for which i created a huge free collection of such sounds) but Spectral could sound really nice for that too. Same is true for many other synths where i tried to create such sounds. I guess i had created Synth Brass sounds with almost every synth that i owned and for me usually this is also great for testing the filter and envelope behavior of a synth.
Recently i also like to play some of my own Synth Brass patches that i created with my Novation UltraNova hardware synth.

[fluffy_little_something]

Is that a 10-pole filter?

[hivkorn]

fmr wrote:
hivkorn wrote:
Next month i will buy Cronox 4 if they are still running their good buy deal

If not it will be good bye to to good buy. Anyway, sooner or later, it will be good bye

I could be interested in Morphox too, to round up my Lin Plug collection, but paying $50,00 for something we know will soon be buried for good seems a little too much. I have to think about it.

if it run on your computer , so why don't buy ? Spectral / Saxlab / Morphox .
For me it is only bargain , Saxlab is very good , i don't dig too much Spectral , but i know morphox is great

[Ingonator]

Is that a 10-pole filter?

As 1 Pole usually means 6dB/oct 60 dB is indeed 10 poles.

With the drawable filter in Spectral could also create a 72dB filter or more.

FWIW the x-axis in the filter shape display of Spectral corresponds to semitones (-60 to +60) and the y-axis to dB (+12 db to -96 dB).

[fluffy_little_something]

Never heard anything greater than 48db, and even that was only two crappy SE filters in series and probably far from a true 8-pole filter

What's the purpose/result soundwise? Usually the more poles, the more "muted" a LP filter sounds. Except for Saurus if I remember correctly

[Caine123]

ok morphox is out. cause i would invest more time in other synths, but it's still cool but also limited in terms of morphing...

crx4 i dunno yet. It didnt click for me yet.
as a sampler it lacks compared to other samplers. as a wavetable synth it is limited. and a standard va it is ok but nothing special. is there a nice procedure or tipps what makes it special? I dont see it yet.

[Ingonator]

Never heard anything greater than 48db, and even that was only two crappy SE filters in series and probably far from a true 8-pole filter

What's the purpose/result soundwise? Usually the more poles, the more "muted" a LP filter sounds. Except for Saurus if I remember correctly

Well, based on our conversations in the past (and recently i mostly tried to ignore you...) i am not sure if it makes sense to start a serious reply to you but here you go:

As just mentioned that drawable filter in Spectral displays the semitones in x-axis (with 12 semitones = 1 octave) and dB in teh y-axis so you coudl measure the usual dB/Oct value for the "steepness" of the filter.
Anyway the drawable filter in Spectral is not really similar to a hardare filter that normall used multiple values of 6dB/oct like e.g. 6, 12, 18, 24 etc.
I Spectral you coudl also use values that are not multiples of 6 like e.g 10 dB etc.

A higher "Steepness" of a Lowpass filter at the same Cutoff value results in less high frequency content which could be especially helpful for Bass sounds (and also for Synth Horns liek in my own patch i mentioned above).

A "formant filter" usally consists of many Banpdpass filters with a fixed Cutoff and those Bandpass filters usually need to be very steep to not have too much overlapping of the different filter bands.
With the drawable filter in Spectral you could create a very steep Bandpass filter and also a kind of formant filter with mu8ltiple bands.
You could also create a complex filter that does not correspond to anything found in a hardware synth.

[fluffy_little_something]

Hm, makes me wonder why soft synths don't have a db knob for continuously setting the slope. Probably a remainder of hardware convention...

How many db would a filter have where the line on the scope drops vertically like a stone at any given frequency?

[BlackWinny]

Ingo, you who are a specialist in the brass sounds, how do you compare it to other tools (vintage or not) in that type of sounds?

Hi,

in my demo just posted at the previous page i used a layer of a Bell and a pad sound included with my own factory presets for Spectral but i also created two Brass sounds for the factory content called "iw 60dB Horn" and "iw Bellic Horn".

For "iw 60dB Horn" with the drawable filter in Spectral i created a 60dB/oct LPF that is not found in an hardware synth taht way and teh result sounds really nice IMO.

The patch ""iw Bellic Horn" used a comparable Horn sound but the sound is switched with a Bell sound and back to a Horn each time you press a new note. This is done using a single Osc and using the "Alternate" mod source to modulate the "Wave Mix" for Osc 1.

Overall i would mostly prefer something like e.g. The Legend for Brass sounds (for which i created a huge free collection of such sounds) but Spectral could sound really nice for that too. Same is true for many other synths where i tried to create such sounds. I guess i had created Synth Brass sounds with almost every synth that i owned and for me usually this is also great for testing the filter and envelope behavior of a synth.
Recently i also like to play some of my own Synth Brass patches that i created with my Novation UltraNova hardware synth.

Thank you Ingo ! I was sure to knock at the right door.